Hi, when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to be published? We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. Meanwhile we have to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my previus mail: "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since we want to adhere to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec time is within our development timeframe or not:) I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of the occi xml scheme at March (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). I have one question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories in the scheme? Cheers, Gyula
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Csom Gyula Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi, when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to be published?
We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. Meanwhile we have to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my previus mail: "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since we want to adhere to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec time is within our development timeframe or not:)
I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of
Hi, Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are pretty busy right now. Cheers, -Thijs the
occi xml scheme at March (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). I have one question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories in the scheme?
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-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Csom Gyula Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi, when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to be published?
We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. Meanwhile we have to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my previus mail: "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since we want to adhere to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec time is within our development timeframe or not:)
I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of
Hi, thx for your reply! I forgot to mention in my previous mail, that our development would end at the end of this summer (when the deployment phase would start). Though we do not have a detailed plan, yet, I guess cluster specific development wouldn't start before july, so we have at least 1-1,5 month before (detailed) design decisions must be made... Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute element within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http category header draft, category already supports extensions (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00, Section 3). Cheers, Gyula -----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:18 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org Másolatot kap: Andy Edmonds; garymazzaferro@gmail.com Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? Hi, Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are pretty busy right now. Cheers, -Thijs the
occi xml scheme at March (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). I have one question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories in the scheme?
Cheers, Gyula _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
Hi, That makes life easier :-) As you know we are working on the rendering topic and you suggestions are more than welcome! Cheers, -Thijs
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Csom Gyula Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 12:51 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi, thx for your reply!
I forgot to mention in my previous mail, that our development would end at the end of this summer (when the deployment phase would start). Though we do not have a detailed plan, yet, I guess cluster specific development wouldn't start before july, so we have at least 1-1,5 month before (detailed) design decisions must be made...
Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute element within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http category header draft, category already supports extensions (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00, Section 3).
Cheers, Gyula
-----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:18 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org Másolatot kap: Andy Edmonds; garymazzaferro@gmail.com Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi,
Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are pretty busy right now.
Cheers,
-Thijs
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Csom Gyula Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi, when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to be published?
We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. Meanwhile we have to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my previus mail: "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since we want to adhere to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec time is within our development timeframe or not:)
I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of the occi xml scheme at March (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). I have one question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories in the scheme?
Cheers, Gyula _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
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Hi, when rereading your reply one more question came up. You wrote:
Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5
Does that mean there won't be pure XML format, XSD scheme? I'm asking this because both Andy and Gary posted XSD schemes to the mailing list. I'm a bit confused... Could you please clarify this? Cheers, Gyula -----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:56 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? Hi, That makes life easier :-) As you know we are working on the rendering topic and you suggestions are more than welcome! Cheers, -Thijs
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Csom Gyula Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 12:51 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi, thx for your reply!
I forgot to mention in my previous mail, that our development would end at the end of this summer (when the deployment phase would start). Though we do not have a detailed plan, yet, I guess cluster specific development wouldn't start before july, so we have at least 1-1,5 month before (detailed) design decisions must be made...
Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute element within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http category header draft, category already supports extensions (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00, Section 3).
Cheers, Gyula
-----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:18 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org Másolatot kap: Andy Edmonds; garymazzaferro@gmail.com Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi,
Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are pretty busy right now.
Cheers,
-Thijs
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Csom Gyula Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi, when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to be published?
We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. Meanwhile we have to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my previus mail: "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since we want to adhere to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec time is within our development timeframe or not:)
I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of the occi xml scheme at March (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). I have one question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories in the scheme?
Cheers, Gyula _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
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2010/5/17 Csom Gyula <csom@interface.hu>
Hi, when rereading your reply one more question came up. You wrote:
Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5
Does that mean there won't be pure XML format, XSD scheme? I'm asking this because both Andy and Gary posted XSD schemes to the mailing list. I'm a bit confused... Could you please clarify this?
That's right, there are no plans for a POX (plain old XML) rendering at this time. Sam -----Eredeti üzenet-----
Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:56 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi,
That makes life easier :-) As you know we are working on the rendering topic and you suggestions are more than welcome!
Cheers,
-Thijs
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Csom Gyula Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 12:51 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi, thx for your reply!
I forgot to mention in my previous mail, that our development would end at the end of this summer (when the deployment phase would start). Though we do not have a detailed plan, yet, I guess cluster specific development wouldn't start before july, so we have at least 1-1,5 month before (detailed) design decisions must be made...
Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute element within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http category header draft, category already supports extensions (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00, Section 3).
Cheers, Gyula
-----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:18 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org Másolatot kap: Andy Edmonds; garymazzaferro@gmail.com Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi,
Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are pretty busy right now.
Cheers,
-Thijs
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Csom Gyula Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17 To: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi, when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to be published?
We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. Meanwhile we have to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my previus mail: "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since we want to adhere to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec time is within our development timeframe or not:)
I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of the occi xml scheme at March (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). I have one question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories in the scheme?
Cheers, Gyula _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
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Hi Gyula, The XML versions of OCCI were developed prior to the XHTML5/RDFa discussions. I believe Andy's version was for the SLA@SOI project which uses XML. My version is being used as a staged prototype to help move toward the RDFa implementation. Since XHTML5/RDFa is a format similar enough to POX, the transition to and future adoption should be no more difficult than adopting pox. I hope this explains why there are XML formats floating around. I can't speak for the SLA@SOI project, but as soon as the XHTML5/RDFa is completed, I will be abandoning my XML implementation. cheers, gary Sam Johnston wrote:
2010/5/17 Csom Gyula <csom@interface.hu <mailto:csom@interface.hu>>
Hi, when rereading your reply one more question came up. You wrote:
> Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this > topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5
Does that mean there won't be pure XML format, XSD scheme? I'm asking this because both Andy and Gary posted XSD schemes to the mailing list. I'm a bit confused... Could you please clarify this?
That's right, there are no plans for a POX (plain old XML) rendering at this time.
Sam
-----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com <mailto:tmetsch@platform.com>] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:56 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi,
That makes life easier :-) As you know we are working on the rendering topic and you suggestions are more than welcome!
Cheers,
-Thijs
> -----Original Message----- > From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org> [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org>] On > Behalf Of Csom Gyula > Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 12:51 > To: occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > Hi, > thx for your reply! > > I forgot to mention in my previous mail, that our development would end > at the end of this summer (when the deployment phase would start). > Though we do not have a detailed plan, yet, I guess cluster specific > development wouldn't start before july, so we have at least 1-1,5 > month before (detailed) design decisions must be made... > > Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to > be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute element > within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be > necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http category > header draft, category already supports extensions > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00, > Section 3). > > Cheers, > Gyula > > -----Eredeti üzenet----- > Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com <mailto:tmetsch@platform.com>] > Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:18 > Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > Másolatot kap: Andy Edmonds; garymazzaferro@gmail.com <mailto:garymazzaferro@gmail.com> > Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > > Hi, > > Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this > topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there > will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are pretty > busy right now. > > Cheers, > > -Thijs > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org> [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org>] On > > Behalf Of Csom Gyula > > Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17 > > To: occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > > Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > > > Hi, > > when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to > be > > published? > > > > We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. > > Meanwhile we have > > to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my > > previus mail: > > "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since > > we want to adhere > > to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec > > time is within our > > development timeframe or not:) > > > > I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of > the > > occi xml scheme > > at March > (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). > > I have one > > question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories > in > > the scheme? > > > > Cheers, > > Gyula > > _______________________________________________ > > occi-wg mailing list > > occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > occi-wg mailing list > occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
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From SLA@SOI's point of view, we mainly use the OCCI header rendering. The XML schema that I presented to the list was a version that is needed for integration with WS-Agreement (XML-based). That XML representation gets converted into the HTTP header representation that is presented to our infrastructure service manager (the entity that provisions VMs using the OCCI API). If you want more details on this we can chat offline.
As Sam notes, there is no immediate plan to ratify a XML representation unless there are numerous voices in the community require one. In that case we are in a good position to have one based on the existing XML schema that will be used as a foundation/guide within the HTML5/RDFa representation. However as Gary hints at, the HTML5/RDFa representation should satisfy all needs. Gyula, if you are interested in helping with the HTML5/RDFa representation then do let us know :-) Regards, Andy -----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Gary Mazz Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:02 PM To: Sam Johnston Cc: occi-wg@ogf.org; Csom Gyula Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? Hi Gyula, The XML versions of OCCI were developed prior to the XHTML5/RDFa discussions. I believe Andy's version was for the SLA@SOI project which uses XML. My version is being used as a staged prototype to help move toward the RDFa implementation. Since XHTML5/RDFa is a format similar enough to POX, the transition to and future adoption should be no more difficult than adopting pox. I hope this explains why there are XML formats floating around. I can't speak for the SLA@SOI project, but as soon as the XHTML5/RDFa is completed, I will be abandoning my XML implementation. cheers, gary Sam Johnston wrote:
2010/5/17 Csom Gyula <csom@interface.hu <mailto:csom@interface.hu>>
Hi, when rereading your reply one more question came up. You wrote:
> Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this > topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5
Does that mean there won't be pure XML format, XSD scheme? I'm asking this because both Andy and Gary posted XSD schemes to the mailing list. I'm a bit confused... Could you please clarify this?
That's right, there are no plans for a POX (plain old XML) rendering at this time.
Sam
-----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com <mailto:tmetsch@platform.com>] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:56 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi,
That makes life easier :-) As you know we are working on the rendering topic and you suggestions are more than welcome!
Cheers,
-Thijs
> -----Original Message----- > From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org> [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org>] On > Behalf Of Csom Gyula > Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 12:51 > To: occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > Hi, > thx for your reply! > > I forgot to mention in my previous mail, that our development would end > at the end of this summer (when the deployment phase would start). > Though we do not have a detailed plan, yet, I guess cluster specific > development wouldn't start before july, so we have at least 1-1,5 > month before (detailed) design decisions must be made... > > Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to > be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute element > within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be > necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http category > header draft, category already supports extensions > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00, > Section 3). > > Cheers, > Gyula > > -----Eredeti üzenet----- > Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com <mailto:tmetsch@platform.com>] > Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:18 > Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > Másolatot kap: Andy Edmonds; garymazzaferro@gmail.com <mailto:garymazzaferro@gmail.com> > Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > > Hi, > > Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this > topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there > will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are pretty > busy right now. > > Cheers, > > -Thijs > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org> [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org>] On > > Behalf Of Csom Gyula > > Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17 > > To: occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > > Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > > > Hi, > > when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to > be > > published? > > > > We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. > > Meanwhile we have > > to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my > > previus mail: > > "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since > > we want to adhere > > to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec > > time is within our > > development timeframe or not:) > > > > I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of > the > > occi xml scheme > > at March > (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). > > I have one > > question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories > in > > the scheme? > > > > Cheers, > > Gyula > > _______________________________________________ > > occi-wg mailing list > > occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > occi-wg mailing list > occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
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Yep, I'm interested:-) Even though I've got a slightly different view on the target position of the upcoming format, I'm definetely interested in helping with it. (Regarding my "slightly different view"... I wouldn't consider my opinion established, yet, so I don't "propagate" it now.) Gyula Ps.: Dropped a private mail..., too. -----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Edmonds, AndrewX [mailto:andrewx.edmonds@intel.com] Küldve: 2010. 05. 17., H 17:24 Címzett: Gary Mazz; Sam Johnston Másolatot kap: occi-wg@ogf.org; Csom Gyula Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
From SLA@SOI's point of view, we mainly use the OCCI header rendering. The XML schema that I presented to the list was a version that is needed for integration with WS-Agreement (XML-based). That XML representation gets converted into the HTTP header representation that is presented to our infrastructure service manager (the entity that provisions VMs using the OCCI API). If you want more details on this we can chat offline.
As Sam notes, there is no immediate plan to ratify a XML representation unless there are numerous voices in the community require one. In that case we are in a good position to have one based on the existing XML schema that will be used as a foundation/guide within the HTML5/RDFa representation. However as Gary hints at, the HTML5/RDFa representation should satisfy all needs. Gyula, if you are interested in helping with the HTML5/RDFa representation then do let us know :-) Regards, Andy -----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Gary Mazz Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:02 PM To: Sam Johnston Cc: occi-wg@ogf.org; Csom Gyula Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? Hi Gyula, The XML versions of OCCI were developed prior to the XHTML5/RDFa discussions. I believe Andy's version was for the SLA@SOI project which uses XML. My version is being used as a staged prototype to help move toward the RDFa implementation. Since XHTML5/RDFa is a format similar enough to POX, the transition to and future adoption should be no more difficult than adopting pox. I hope this explains why there are XML formats floating around. I can't speak for the SLA@SOI project, but as soon as the XHTML5/RDFa is completed, I will be abandoning my XML implementation. cheers, gary Sam Johnston wrote:
2010/5/17 Csom Gyula <csom@interface.hu <mailto:csom@interface.hu>>
Hi, when rereading your reply one more question came up. You wrote:
> Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this > topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5
Does that mean there won't be pure XML format, XSD scheme? I'm asking this because both Andy and Gary posted XSD schemes to the mailing list. I'm a bit confused... Could you please clarify this?
That's right, there are no plans for a POX (plain old XML) rendering at this time.
Sam
-----Eredeti üzenet----- Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com <mailto:tmetsch@platform.com>] Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:56 Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status?
Hi,
That makes life easier :-) As you know we are working on the rendering topic and you suggestions are more than welcome!
Cheers,
-Thijs
> -----Original Message----- > From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org> [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org>] On > Behalf Of Csom Gyula > Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 12:51 > To: occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > Hi, > thx for your reply! > > I forgot to mention in my previous mail, that our development would end > at the end of this summer (when the deployment phase would start). > Though we do not have a detailed plan, yet, I guess cluster specific > development wouldn't start before july, so we have at least 1-1,5 > month before (detailed) design decisions must be made... > > Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to > be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute element > within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be > necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http category > header draft, category already supports extensions > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00, > Section 3). > > Cheers, > Gyula > > -----Eredeti üzenet----- > Feladó: Thijs Metsch [mailto:tmetsch@platform.com <mailto:tmetsch@platform.com>] > Küldve: 2010. 05. 15., Szo 12:18 > Címzett: Csom Gyula; occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > Másolatot kap: Andy Edmonds; garymazzaferro@gmail.com <mailto:garymazzaferro@gmail.com> > Tárgy: RE: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > > Hi, > > Right now Andy (Edmonds) and Gary (Mazzaferro) are working on this > topic. Especially with an eye on RDFa and XHTML5. I doubt that there > will be something ready within the next 2 weeks, since both are pretty > busy right now. > > Cheers, > > -Thijs > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org> [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org>] On > > Behalf Of Csom Gyula > > Sent: Samstag, 15. Mai 2010 11:17 > > To: occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > > Subject: [occi-wg] OCCI XML scheme status? > > > > Hi, > > when can we expect the final draft version of the occi xml scheme to > be > > published? > > > > We are backed by OpenNebula which uses XML as rendering format. > > Meanwhile we have > > to extend it's capabilities in order to support clusters (see my > > previus mail: > > "Cluster kind or such", where I was adviced to use Categories). Since > > we want to adhere > > to the standard it's important for us to know whether your xml spec > > time is within our > > development timeframe or not:) > > > > I've seen Gary Mazzaferro already posted the first draft version of > the > > occi xml scheme > > at March > (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/occi-wg/2010-March/001682.html). > > I have one > > question in this regard. Do you plan to support links and categories > in > > the scheme? > > > > Cheers, > > Gyula > > _______________________________________________ > > occi-wg mailing list > > occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > occi-wg mailing list > occi-wg@ogf.org <mailto:occi-wg@ogf.org> > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg
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2010/5/15 Csom Gyula <csom@interface.hu>
Let me add one more thing regarding the upcoming scheme. In order to be extensible it would be nice to support any or anyAttribute element within the scheme. At least for the Category element this could be necessary for compatibility reasons, eg. according to the http category header draft, category already supports extensions (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-johnston-http-category-header-00, Section 3).
This draft was written to support OCCI's needs and extensions are certainly something we can put to good use. You can be sure that all renderings will support both link and category constructs too. For the XML rendering, in order to support both user (browser) and machine (software) clients we decided to go with XHTML which we'll focus on once we've digested the public feedback and filled in the gaps in the existing specification. It's not too late for you to provide input so if you have any feedback then it would be gratefully received. Cheers, Sam
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