On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Gary Mazz <garymazzaferro@gmail.com> wrote:
Didn't we talk about this at one time ?? It seems like a lifetime ago :)
The one on the wiki was too visually "busy". The simplified one was
intended to look more... simple.
Edmonds, AndrewX wrote:
> FYI: we did also have this on our wiki, with the very same states as in Gary's diagram.
>
> http://forge.ogf.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.occi-wg/wiki/StateModel
>
> KIS, LCD,
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Gary Mazz
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:04 PM
> To: Alexis Richardson
> Cc: occi-wg@ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Simplified OCCI VM lifecycle diagram]
>
> Alexis,
>
> Both Sam and I have run into instances where not all providers support
> the same states. A few, do not support the "stopped" state, they move
> from 'active' directly to 'destroy'. This is also true for storage
> resources. After a VM is stopped (turned off), the storage and all its
> data from the VM instantiation is immediately destroyed. That is, unless
> you purchase persistent storage and copy the information from the
> volatile disk to the persistent one. We also encounter a similar
> practices with network IP addresses.
>
> Sam did develop a workaround for VM lifecycles, where next valid states
> are included with current state information. However, it still does not
> over ride the provider's practice or exclude a consumer's requirement
> for the unsupported state.
>
> As an informative model, I think it can help communicate the basic
> concepts of vm lifecycles.
>
> -gary
>
>
>
> Alexis Richardson wrote:
>
>> Sam,
>>
>> On the occi-wg call last week, we agreed to provide a reference model.
>> Whether this needs to be normative or otherwise is TBD. But, we need
>> to show folks a recommended model to implement, in order to increase
>> understanding and bring in adopters. Those adopters whose models
>> differ from the example could either implement their own model with
>> OCCI's protocol, or get involved in the community to adapt the
>> recommended model.
>>
>> alexis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Copying list...
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Sam Johnston" <samj@samj.net>
>>> Date: 21 Feb 2010 22:09
>>> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] [Fwd: Simplified OCCI VM lifecycle diagram]
>>> To: "Gary Mazz" <garymazzaferro@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> The problem with state diagrams is that if your implementation doesn't fit
>>> the mould then you can't use OCCI.
>>>
>>> For example, you can't stop a resource with rackspacecloud, only destroy it.
>>>
>>> Something like this is probably useful as an informative rather than
>>> normative reference.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 21 Feb 2010 21:35, "Gary Mazz" <garymazzaferro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As per the week...
>>>>
>>>>
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