Sam,

I meant "it's not necessary to distinguish a virtual floppy..." for the use case I described (transferring data without using the network).

For legacy apps that rely on a resource called a "floppy drive" it is needed. And I agree that the way to do this is to designate it with an adjective (= attribute), like the word "floppy". If there was some verb that you could do to a "floppy" disk which distinguished it from a non-"floppy" disk then "floppy disk" *might* be justified as a separate noun. [I am of course ignoring the oft-overlooked use case for floppy disks: frisbee.]

.. Shlomo

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net> wrote:
Shlomo,

I'd be hesitant to remove legacy support for something that someone somewhere will need. For example you can move the encryption key for the Windows user accounts database (SAM) to a floppy which is consulted at boot (see q310305), some small linux distributions boot from floppies (or consult them for config - see gibraltar firewall), etc.

However I'd planned to implement this as an attribute and if I remember well they're a noun in vCloud (this is one of my main grievances about vCloud - lots of nouns, albeit far less than its predecessors). Their API is very similar to the current thinking for OCCI, though I think there's still a far bit of unnecessary complexity we can boil off (which is no wonder when you consider its roots).

Sam


On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:53 AM, <shlomo.swidler@gmail.com> wrote:
To the list this time.

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From: <shlomo.swidler@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [occi-wg] vCloud API
To: Randy Bias <randyb@neotactics.com>


Randy,

Do share the use case, please?

It could be useful in transferring small amounts of data (e.g. secret account credentials) between machines without using the network. But it's not necessary to distinguish a virtual floppy disk from any other type of disk, as long as you can make a small enough volume size (1.44 Mb?) for the cost to be irrelevant.

.. Shlomo


On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Randy Bias <randyb@neotactics.com> wrote:
I've actually found very good use for these.


--Randy


On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Wes Felter wrote:

http://communities.vmware.com/community/developer/forums/vcloudapi

It supports virtual floppy disks; clearly we must add this essential
feature to OCCI immediately. :-)

Wes Felter
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