Hi Augusto,

Thanks for this information. A couple of points and observations are below.

   1) When I suggested a special session for an OCCI WG meeting, it was with the idea in mind that of course OGF sessions that result in contributions to documents need to be run according to OGF IP rules, with sign-in sheets and acknowledgement forms etc. in order to protect the integrity of the IP process that produces these documents. Hence these are usually extra, separate sessions that are not mixed with conference sessions.

  2) Thijs has separately clarified that the OCCI 1.2 document set is considered complete, and I believe that it is in front of the OGF GFSG now for final review. Jens can clarify its exact status. If there are any changes that are needed to this document set before publication, we need to know right away.

My suggestion for an implementation community group would be to gather people together specifically around the idea of promoting progress on OCCI 1.2 implementations as rapidly as possible to take advantage of the recent document work. Of course, people are welcome to present conference papers and talks as they like, but I was hoping to encourage a more coordinated effort.

Please let us know if you need OGF sign-in sheets for a document-oriented meeting for the items proposed by Boris, and if it will be possible to arrange a special session to focus on this (or on the community implementation group) beyond the papers at the conference itself.

Alan

On Mar 22, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it> wrote:

The tentative agenda of the extended special session follows. The time slots reserved to the four Closer presentations have been reduced to 25 minutes, and thus we have time for two slots of 20 minutes each for occi 1.2 review and implementations, and one 5 minutes slot for 2.0 perspectives. At the end, we have time for an open discussion before closing.

16:00 - Introduction of the special session - Augusto
16:05 - #1 Evolution of The Open Cloud Computing Interface, by Boris Parak et al.

16:30 - #2 Easing Scientific Computing and Federated Management in the Cloud with OCCI, by Zdenek Šustr et al.

16:55 - #3 SLAaaS: an OCCI compliant framework for cloud SLA provisioning and violation detection, by G. Katsaros et al.

17:20 - #4 Beyond Nagios - Design of a cloud monitoring system, by Augusto Ciuffoletti
17:45 - ogf#1 review of OCCI 1.2 - summary, status of documents, feedback (Boris?) (10' brief + 10' discussion)
18:05 - ogf#2 Implementations of OCCI 1.2: short & long term plans, foresee-able challenges, project road-maps, OCCIware project (Jean?) (10' brief +10' discussion)
18:25 - ogf#3 Perspective on OCCI 2.0: XML rendering, filtering, transport, attribute types refinement (Augusto?) (5' brief)
18:30 - Open discussion
19:00 - Extended special session close

The three OGF talks (together with the four paper presentations) should improve the outreach of OCCI.
The final open discussion should help to finalize the submitted documents.

Many items among those suggested by Jean and Boris are not scheduled. The inventory:
-) discussion on changes which didn't get into OCCI 1.2
-) Extending OCCI's query interface -- in-depth discussion on query
interface extensions, multi-location set-ups, advertising endpoints,
etc.
-) Towards OCCI 2.0 -- preliminary discussions, roadmap
-) Filtering in OCCI -- this discussion is long overdue :-)
-) Transport protocol extensions -- perhaps AMQP, any other ideas?
-) Rendering extensions -- for the next release, we should finally
get XML into the standard
-) OpenAPI/Swagger

Some of them are challenging and urgent, but I think that now we should really focus on closing the 1.2 documents, and consider them as building blocks.

Augusto

2016-03-19 8:41 GMT+01:00 Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it>:
The Closer secretariat confirms the availability of the same room used for the special session until 19:00, so that we have one additional hour for an OGF-labelled session. This way we facilitate the attendance of people interested though not directly involved in OCCI. I'd concentrate in this time slot the discussions and briefs that are not too technical, and that give a perspective of OCCI activity. We can arrange a further (or even preliminary) meeting to discuss more technical issues: I guess we have plenty of places where to meet, and in case I'll ask for further availability to Closer.

As for financial issues, the secretariat pointed out that the participants need to register to the main conference. No words about a financial participation of OGF. I asked if this was appropriate, but the reply was that the participants need to register, nothing else. So, if OGF wants to help the participants...

In the next week we will try to finalize the agenda using the info provided by Jean, Boris, and by all those that have not yet replied. I'd like to have a word about that from Andy and Thijs.

Augusto



2016-03-18 9:03 GMT+01:00 Jean Parpaillon <jean.parpaillon@free.fr>:
Hi,
I'll be there.
Some topics I can present something about below.

Le jeudi 17 mars 2016 à 20:51 +0100, Boris Parak a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Augusto Ciuffoletti

We have a two-hours session scheduled during the conference: it is our
session, and we can organize it in the way that better fits our needs,
provided that the four scheduled talks take place. For instance, if we
reduce the length of the presentations to 20 minutes (instead of 30), 40
minutes are left for discussion, briefing or whatever. Also, I am rather
confident that Closer would be happy to allow the utilization of the same
room for an extended time slot (thought I'd need to check and ask for this).

So there is really the opportunity to capitalize on this Special Session: we
just need a widely agreed definition and purpose for the additional activity
that we want to carry out (agenda). It would be great if this could help the
delivery of the pending documents (OCCI 1.2 and monitoring).

A formal announcement, according with Jean's suggestion, should be based on
a work plan: is there any plan of this sort?
We don't have anything specific yet, but I have a few suggestions. If
we can agree on some of them or perhaps add new ones, we should have
enough for an OCCI WG meeting.

1.) Review of OCCI 1.2 -- summary, late feedback, status of documents,
discussion on changes which didn't get into OCCI 1.2
2.) Implementations of OCCI 1.2 -- short & long term plans, forseeable
challenges, project roadmaps
1-2 slides on OCCIware current status and roadmap.

3.) Extending OCCI's query interface -- in-depth discussion on query
interface extensions, multi-location set-ups, advertising endpoints,
etc.
4.) Towards OCCI 2.0 -- plans for the future, preliminary discussions, roadmap
Some inputs on that:
* attributes types refinment
* possible links with OpenAPI / Swagger ?

5.) Filtering in OCCI -- this discussion is long overdue :-)
6.) Transport protocol extensions -- perhaps AMQP, any other ideas?
7.) Rendering extensions -- for the next release, we should finally
get XML into the standard
I've initiated that, I can present status, evolutions, ...


Regards,
Jean


What do you think? Any other ideas? Something to remove/add?


Can we envision a further
meeting to be formally announced during the Session?


Augusto
Boris



2016-03-17 13:39 GMT+01:00 Sill, Alan <alan.sill@ttu.edu>:


Is there a need for the OCCI-WG or its members and participants (or a
community group focused on OCCI implementations) to meet at CLOSER 2016? OGF
could pay for meeting rooms and.or offer a small co-sponsorship of the
conference to cover the reasonable costs of such a meeting if so.

We don’t have a lot of money for such things and try to spend it
carefully, but meetings of OGF groups that are well attended at topical
conference is one way that we try to use it and is possible under special
circumstances.

Given the pending release of OCCI 1.2, I think that a meeting on OCCI 1.2
implementations would be well in scope and is something that we can
consider.

Alan


On Mar 17, 2016, at 4:33 AM, Jean Parpaillon <jean.parpaillon@free.fr>
wrote:

Dear all,
Thank you Augusto for organizing this session.
I would propose an official OCCI discussion to be announced during this
session. I have no doubt such discussion will appear informally during the
conference but for funding/administrative purpose, it would greatly help to
have it officially announced, and maybe let some people join who could not
otherwise.


Cheers,
Jean


Le jeudi 17 mars 2016 à 10:15 +0100, Augusto Ciuffoletti a écrit :

Dear members of the occi-wg maillist,

this is to finalize the details about the Special Session about OCCI at
CLOSER 2016, to be held in Rome (Italy), 23-25 April. The Program Committee
selected 4 papers out of 6 that were submitted, and the authors will present
their work on the second day of the Conference. The exact time of the
presentations is still to be finalized.

The selected papers are the following:

Evolution of The Open Cloud Computing Interface, by Boris Parak et al.

Easing Scientific Computing and Federated Management in the Cloud with
OCCI, by Zdenek Šustr et al.

SLAaaS: an OCCI compliant framework for cloud SLA provisioning and
violation detection, by G. Katsaros et al.

Beyond Nagios - Design of a cloud monitoring system (Augusto Ciuffoletti)

It is my hope that this event will extend the reach of the OCCI principles
to new people, especially researchers. Those of you that are going to
participate to CLOSER are warmly invited to participate to the event to get
in touch and reinforce a network.

Augusto Ciuffoletti


2016-01-18 11:49 GMT+01:00 Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it>:

Hi all,

this is a reminder about the special session entitled "Experiences with
OCCI" that we want to schedule during Closer 2016 (Rome, April 23-25 2016).
The deadline for paper submission expires on February 10. If you want to
report and discuss about an adoption, or propose a new application, you
still have more than three weeks to put it on paper and send to us.

All relevant infos are now on Closer site in a dedicated page, or in our
flier.

Thank you

Augusto


2015-12-10 16:45 GMT+01:00 Augusto Ciuffoletti <augusto@di.unipi.it>:

Dear all,

there will be a special session dedicated to OCCI during the "Closer 2016"
conference that will take place in Rome, near to the end of April. The
session is intended to gather results and proposals about the Open Cloud
Computing Interface: adoption stories are specifically appreciated, but also
proposals for extensions, new applications and tools.

The deadline for submission is on February, and you find a flyer with the
schedule and further info at http://tinyurl.com/clocci16.

Augusto

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