On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Roger Menday <roger.menday@uk.fujitsu.com> wrote:
related : as others have pointed out, there is a long history of information modeling at the OGF. Is there some cross-over, information modeling-wise, with existing work ?
One would hope so. The (partly) scientific provenance of OGF surely favours some formal underpinnings here.
Roger
alexis
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Edmonds, AndrewX <andrewx.edmonds@intel.com> wrote:
I'd (again) agree with this and would re-iterate Alexander's (Papaspyrou) earlier point on approach and process:
"The canonical way to cope with this issue [formats] (which, by the way, has proved right many times in the past) in many WGs within OGF is to separate this step not only in design, but also in specification: have an abstract "modeling" part in the spec which clearly defines the semantics the data, and one or more normative renderings for the abstract model."
It would also seem to me that although we have the noun-verb-attribute reasoning it might need to be expressed in an easier form to communicate, say graphically.
Andy
-----Original Message----- From: occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Roger Menday Sent: 12 May 2009 11:43 To: Richard Davies Cc: occi-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Simple JSON rendering for OCCI
On 12 May 2009, at 11:20, Richard Davies wrote:
Therein lies the problem - there are no "standard tools" nor any way to specify a cross-platform mechanical transform for JSON (at least not yet).
Yes, I agree with you there - if we're going with multiple formats it'll be easier to define XML -> JSON than JSON -> XML.
Hi Richard,
Rather than transforming across the actual formats, there seems to be a interest in defining a model and then describe how to render onto various data formats. So, rendering-down, rather then transforming- across. (?)
The data formats discussion is a tricky one to resolve, as there's things to like in each of JSON, ATOM and key-value. That said, the "compliant, but non-interoperable implementations through supporting multiple representations" is a strong argument for a single format. Whatever that may be ...
regards Roger
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