Going back, I think, first the Compute, Storage, Network should be under infrastructure. The Platform comes next. There is something that the PaaS provides more than IaaS and that need to go there. Cheers <k/> |-----Original Message----- |From: Alexis Richardson [mailto:alexis.richardson@gmail.com] |Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:43 AM |To: Krishna Sankar (ksankar) |Cc: Sam Johnston; occi-wg@ogf.org |Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Resource Types: Compute / Network / Storage | |Ha, indeed :-) | |Standards don't need window dressing ... | | |On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Krishna Sankar (ksankar) |<ksankar@cisco.com> wrote: |> And say "Cloud has no clothes" ;o) |> |> Cheers |> <k/> |> |-----Original Message----- |> |From: Alexis Richardson [mailto:alexis.richardson@gmail.com] |> |Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:39 AM |> |To: Sam Johnston |> |Cc: Krishna Sankar (ksankar); occi-wg@ogf.org |> |Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Resource Types: Compute / Network / Storage |> | |> |Fabric is also used to refer to PaaS: |> |http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/11/14/cloud-types/ |> | |> |I suggest we drop the word 'fabric'. |> | |> | |> |On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Sam Johnston <samj@samj.net> wrote: |> |> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Krishna Sankar (ksankar) |> |> <ksankar@cisco.com> wrote: |> |>> |> |>> But then SaaS is Software over PaaS; PaaS is fabric over IaaS; |IaaS |> |is |> |>> compute, storage and network. Isn't fabric the P is PaaS ? and in |> |IaaS, we |> |>> see raw compute/storage/network ? |> |>> |> |>> If we want to maintain the Software-Platform-Infrastructure |> |terminology |> |>> hierarchy I am fine with that. Then we should switch the fabric |and |> |the |> |>> Compute-Storage-Network. |> |> |> |> [Ab]use of the term "fabric" to refer to software platforms like |> Azure |> |is so |> |> far as I can tell a fairly recent trend (and one I'm relatively |> |unconvinced |> |> by). Granted the contept (whereby many interconnected nodes, when |> |viewed |> |> from a distance, appear to be a single coherent "fabric") could be |> |applied |> |> to both hardware and software, but it is most often applied to low |> |level, |> |> interconnected hardware such as SANs and InfiniBand... and servers: |> |> |> |>> What is fabric computing and how does it improve upon current |server |> |>> technology? |> |>> The simplest way to think about it is the next-generation |> |architecture for |> |>> enterprise servers. Fabric computing combines powerful server |> |capabilities |> |>> and advanced networking features into a single server structure. |> |> |> |> We do need something to refer to the underlying hardware/firmware |but |> |I'm |> |> even less convinced by proposed alternatives ("unified computing" |> |being the |> |> most obvious example). Perhaps "Hardware Fabric" would clarify? |> |> |> |> Sam |> |> |> |> |>