January 2010 - occi-wg - lists.ogf.org

Namespaces & Extensibility
by Sam Johnston 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Afternoon all, So one of the things we need[ed] to resolve was how to sensibly handle extensibility and the most sensible approach we've been able to come up with so far is one based on domain names. This leaves someone else to take care of splitting up the global namespace so we don't have to run our own registry, or worse, just hope for the best). For XML this typically means using URI-based schemes like http://purl.org/occi/thing#thong, and while this works for machines it's inconvenient for us humans. They also carry a lot of fluff in terms of the URI scheme (http) and delimiters ([:/#.]). The current approach from the spec is "*Attributes defined by this standard reside under the occi namespace (e.g. "occi.abc") but anyone can define a new attribute by allocating a unique namespace based on their reversed Internet domain (e.g. “com.cisco.cdp”).*" but we could potentially drop the "occi" namespace (and be careful to avoid stepping on current and future TLDs), or better yet, set a good example by choosing a sensible domain name (ideally occi.org but that's not available). The current domain (occi-wg.org) is not only fugly but refers to this working group rather than the spec itself. The reason I'm raising this (more as an FYI than anything else) is because Tim Bray's just done a nice post "On Namespaces<http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/01/17/Extensible-JSON>" in which he suggests to "Do It Like Java" - and that's exactly what we've done, and it's what the Sun Cloud API has done too. Sam PS If anyone does have a suggestion for a sensible domain - or even a more sensible name for the standard (which is a protocol moreso than an interface at this time anyway) then we're all ears.

3 3

Re: [occi-wg] special session request (OGF 27)
by Alexis Richardson 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Xiaoyu That sounds *fantastic*. You are very welcome to join one of our sessions. We meet on Wednesdays by phone. If you want to do a special face to face session then why not come up to London next time some of the other OCCI folks are visiting? Best wishes alexis On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Xiaoyu Chen <xc2(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > Dear all: > > > > I am a research fellow from University of Southampton and > currently co-chairing OGF-UR working group. Recently we were funded by UK > JISC to perform a technical review task for using infrastructure cloud for > research, which is required to cover following stakeholders: > > · *a researcher* > > · *someone working in a research support services role*; > > · *someone working in an IT services role*; > > · *Steering groups or vendors;* > > · *possibly other people*; > > > > Expected interview results are expected to identify issues including: v*irtualisation, > cloud infrastructure prototype, resource planning, application correlation, standards > & interoperability, Cloud programming models, measurement benchmarks, > debugging and profiling, security, Monitoring and logging, service-level > management, open source solutions* > > > > Further details of our project, TeciRes, is available online at: > http://www.jisc.ac.uk/media/documents/programmes/research_infrastructure/te… > > > > So we are thinking of the possibility to have a special session > from OCCI group to collect use cases of public cloud and hybrid clouds > through standard OCCI interfaces, and get some feedbacks from both cloud > providers and researchers. We shall also very interested in the current > status of OCCI standardisation efforts and roadmap. If you have sessions > setup, could you please share 10-20 mins to us in one of your proposed > sessions? > > > > > > > > Best Regards! > > > > X. Chen > > -------- > > LSL > > Electronics and Computer Science > > University of Southampton > > SO17 1BJ > > United Kingdom > > > > +44 238 0591 523 > > >

2 2

Re: [occi-wg] special session request (OGF 27)
by Thijs Metsch 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Hi, I have not yet started to setup an agenda for the OGF28 meetings but I will come back to you as soon as possible. thanks for getting in touch with us! Cheers, -Thijs On 01/18/10 11:41, Xiaoyu Chen wrote: > Dear all: > > > > I am a research fellow from University of Southampton and > currently co-chairing OGF-UR working group. Recently we were funded by > UK JISC to perform a technical review task for using infrastructure > cloud for research, which is required to cover following stakeholders: > > · *a researcher* > > · *someone working in a research support services role*; > > · *someone working in an IT services role*; > > · *Steering groups or vendors;* > > · *possibly other people*; > > > > Expected interview results are expected to identify issues including: > v*irtualisation, cloud infrastructure prototype, resource planning, > application correlation, standards & interoperability, Cloud programming > models, measurement benchmarks, debugging and profiling, security, > Monitoring and logging, service-level management, open source solutions* > > > > Further details of our project, TeciRes, is available online > at: > http://www.jisc.ac.uk/media/documents/programmes/research_infrastructure/te… > > > > So we are thinking of the possibility to have a special session > from OCCI group to collect use cases of public cloud and hybrid clouds > through standard OCCI interfaces, and get some feedbacks from both cloud > providers and researchers. We shall also very interested in the current > status of OCCI standardisation efforts and roadmap. If you have sessions > setup, could you please share 10-20 mins to us in one of your proposed > sessions? > > > > > > > > Best Regards! > > > > X. Chen > > -------- > > LSL > > Electronics and Computer Science > > University of Southampton > > SO17 1BJ > > United Kingdom > > > > +44 238 0591 523 > > > -- Thijs Metsch Tel: +49 (0)941 3075-122 (x60122) http://blogs.sun.com/intheclouds http://www.twitter.com/befreax Software Engineer Cloud, Grid and Virtualization Sun Microsystems GmbH Dr.-Leo-Ritter-Str. 7 mailto:thijs.metsch@sun.com D-93049 Regensburg http://www.sun.com

2 1

Weekly Conference call
by Thijs Metsch 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Hi @all, The outcome of the doodle stated that the following time would be best suited for our weekly conference calls (Sorry Andre): Wednesdays 10am EDT, 4pm CET, 3pm BST, Thursday 12am Tokyo The bridge information hasn't changed and can be found here: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.occi-wg/wiki/Teleconferen… The Agenda for the first confcall is pretty long so hopefully it'll fit in one hour: * Roadmap * Extensions to the current doc series * Integration/Interoperability testing * Adoption of OCCI * Intergration of other standards Thanks, -Thijs -- Thijs Metsch Tel: +49 (0)941 3075-122 (x60122) http://blogs.sun.com/intheclouds http://www.twitter.com/befreax Software Engineer Cloud, Grid and Virtualization Sun Microsystems GmbH Dr.-Leo-Ritter-Str. 7 mailto:thijs.metsch@sun.com D-93049 Regensburg http://www.sun.com

1 0

Great news - part2
by Thijs Metsch 16 Jan '10

16 Jan '10

Hi, Finally our specification is in public comment! Spread the word and ask people to bring in their comments. This is a major milestone for us! Now we can focus on our roadmap, do marketing amd define needed extensions... The documents can be found her: Please spread the link, http://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment Cheers, -Thijs

1 0

some news - part 1
by Thijs Metsch 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

Hi @all, Our first OCCI deliverable the Use case and requirements document has been published. It is now available as document GFD-I.162: http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.162.pdf It can be found on the documents section of the OGF website as well: http://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/?final Cheers, -Thijs -- Thijs Metsch Tel: +49 (0)941 3075-122 (x60122) http://blogs.sun.com/intheclouds http://www.twitter.com/befreax Software Engineer Cloud, Grid and Virtualization Sun Microsystems GmbH Dr.-Leo-Ritter-Str. 7 mailto:thijs.metsch@sun.com D-93049 Regensburg http://www.sun.com

1 0

OCCI weekly conference
by Thijs Metsch 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

Hi guys, Happy new year to you all! Hope you all had some nice days off during the holidays. As promised to some of you I would like to do a doodle once more to see what the best day and time would be for our weekly OCCI conference call. Please ignore the dates in the doodle, and just choose time & date. http://doodle.com/q9e3zhbfgk3nrhdi There is a lot of stuff going on right now with regards to the document, which should be in public comment very soon. I'll give you an update on next weeks concall. Looking forward for a great year for OCCI!, -Thijs -- Thijs Metsch Tel: +49 (0)941 3075-122 (x60122) http://blogs.sun.com/intheclouds http://www.twitter.com/befreax Software Engineer Cloud, Grid and Virtualization Sun Microsystems GmbH Dr.-Leo-Ritter-Str. 7 mailto:thijs.metsch@sun.com D-93049 Regensburg http://www.sun.com

1 1

Today's Confcall Cancelled
by Edmonds, AndrewX 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Quick note to people, The call today has been cancelled. However, we are asking you if there is a more suitable day for the confcall. You can place your vote here: http://doodle.com/q9e3zhbfgk3nrhdi Apologies for the short notice. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Ireland Limited (Branch) Collinstown Industrial Park, Leixlip, County Kildare, Ireland Registered Number: E902934 This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies.

2 1

about OCCI example
by yuxiang 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Hi, I read OCCI spec, it's pretty good. but I'm still not very clear. Where can I found a complete example of this RESTful API, from create a VM with storage, network to stop this VM. Thanks a lots, Mascot.

1 0

Re: [occi-wg] OCCI presentation to A6 (was: Fwd: [A6WG] Links to recordings for A6 Working Group Kickoff Call from 1/8/10 - Actions/Follow-up to come)
by Michael Behrens 11 Jan '10

11 Jan '10

That's a good slide deck....good roadmap info too. Thanks. ---------------------------------------- From: shlomo.swidler(a)gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:22 AM To: Andy Edmonds <andy.edmonds(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] OCCI presentation to A6 (was: Fwd: [A6WG] Links to recordings for A6 Working Group Kickoff Call from 1/8/10 - Actions/Follow-up to come) The slides are also available on Slideshare. http://www.slideshare.net/shl0m0/igt2009-the-open-cloud-computing-interface Somehow the pretty Venn Diagrams on the Open Cloud slides got munged in the version presented at A6. They're intact in the slideshare deck. Shlomo On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Andy Edmonds wrote: > You can find (below) the OCCI presentation that was given on Friday > (08/01/2010) to the A6 working group [1]. Great work from Alexis, Sam and to > Shlomo for the slides! > > Andy > > [1] http://groups.google.com/group/A6WG > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Hoff > Date: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 19:28 > Subject: [A6WG] Links to recordings for A6 Working Group Kickoff Call from > 1/8/10 - Actions/Follow-up to come > To: "A6 (Audit, Assertion, Assessment, and Assurance API) Working Group" > > > > There are two options to listen/view the WebEx recording: > > Topic: A6 API Working Group - Kickoff Call-20100108 1704 > Create time: 1/8/10 10:07 am > File size: 33.23MB > Duration: 1 hour 1 minute > Description: Streaming recording link: > https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/ldr.php?AT=pb&SP=MC&rID=41631852 > rKey=178e8b04941e5672 > Download recording link: > https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/lsr.php?AT=dw&SP=MC&rID=41631852&rK… > > MAKE SURE YOU VIEW THE CHAT WINDOW << It contains some really > excellent discussion points. > > Thanks! > > /Hoff > > > _______________________________________________ > occi-wg mailing list > occi-wg(a)ogf.org > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg > > -- Shlomo Swidler Cloud Computing Developer and Consultant, Amazon EC2 Expert http://www.orchestratus.com/ http://clouddevelopertips.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ occi-wg mailing list occi-wg(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/occi-wg

1 0