Hi NSI team, I see that IETF are doing something that looks rather like NSI. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8453 I recognise a couple of names in the contributor list at the end… Diego Lopez form Telefonica and Gert Grammel from Juniper. I think they are probably both aware of NSI. Has anyone from NSI tried to engage with the this group? Guy Guy Roberts PhD Senior Network Architect Tel: +44 (0)1223 371316 Mob: +44 (0)7881 336417 Skype: guy1965 Networks • Services • People Learn more at www.geant.org<http://www.geant.org/> GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered with the Chamber of Commerce in Amsterdam with registration number 40535155 and operates in the UK as a branch of GÉANT Vereniging. Registered office: Hoekenrode 3, 1102BR Amsterdam, The Netherlands. UK branch address: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK.
Thanks for the information, Guy. While I’m not familiar with the details of the IETF work, let me point out the provisions of the OGF copyright that allow (at the request of the group of course and with the permission of the OGF Board) removal of OGF copyright restrictions if necessary specifically for uploading and contribution of content for the purpose of creating other international standards. This would allow you to propose submitting NSI and/or other OGF material to the IETF if that is the direction the group would like to proceed. Let me know if there’s an interest in this direction. I’ll leave the technical discussions to the group. Thanks, Alan On Jul 3, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Guy Roberts <guy.roberts@geant.org<mailto:guy.roberts@geant.org>> wrote: Hi NSI team, I see that IETF are doing something that looks rather like NSI. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8453<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2Frfc8453&data=02%7C01%7Calan.sill%40ttu.edu%7C27dd6681a0a541ac0ef108d6ffa451a3%7C178a51bf8b2049ffb65556245d5c173c%7C0%7C1%7C636977478566401612&sdata=GYmtpa29A9ZuwfcEYJIZo504dK7iTNHzk1GIEkcE%2B6U%3D&reserved=0> I recognise a couple of names in the contributor list at the end… Diego Lopez form Telefonica and Gert Grammel from Juniper. I think they are probably both aware of NSI. Has anyone from NSI tried to engage with the this group? Guy Guy Roberts PhD Senior Network Architect Tel: +44 (0)1223 371316 Mob: +44 (0)7881 336417 Skype: guy1965 Networks • Services • People Learn more at www.geant.org<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geant.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Calan.sill%40ttu.edu%7C27dd6681a0a541ac0ef108d6ffa451a3%7C178a51bf8b2049ffb65556245d5c173c%7C0%7C1%7C636977478566401612&sdata=gR1Mi5mkdLT5ic2sb0GsyK3l0OPrS9w0hcLf2EqfB3Y%3D&reserved=0> GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered with the Chamber of Commerce in Amsterdam with registration number 40535155 and operates in the UK as a branch of GÉANT Vereniging. Registered office: Hoekenrode 3, 1102BR Amsterdam, The Netherlands. UK branch address: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK. _______________________________________________ nsi-wg mailing list nsi-wg@ogf.org<mailto:nsi-wg@ogf.org> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ogf.or...
Hi everyone I don't this is anything new. At MPLSworld 2018 I saw at least 4-5 different re-implementations of NSI, most typically in the disguise of providing WAN solutions for companies across multiple providers, and I've seen this a couple of other places as well. Cisco even has a decidecated product/service for this multi-provider WAN. It was presented at Cisco NSO days in June this year. Presentation here: https://community.cisco.com/t5/nso-developer-hub-documents/nso-devdays-2019-... Don't let the ngena label fool you, it's Cisco :-). This one in particular requires buy-in on the Cisco XR and NSO platform to participate (as usual Cisco is at the forefront of developing business models), but there other solutions that are more vendor agnostic, but often the protocol isn't particularly well-defined, as the solutions have been more goal focussed. /Henrik On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, Guy Roberts wrote:
Hi NSI team,
I see that IETF are doing something that looks rather like NSI. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8453
I recognise a couple of names in the contributor list at the end… Diego Lopez form Telefonica and Gert Grammel from Juniper. I think they are probably both aware of NSI.
Has anyone from NSI tried to engage with the this group?
Guy
Guy Roberts PhD
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Learn more at www.geant.org
GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered with the Chamber of Commerce in Amsterdam with registration number 40535155 and operates in the UK as a branch of GÉANT Vereniging. Registered office: Hoekenrode 3, 1102BR Amsterdam, The Netherlands. UK branch address: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK.
Best regards, Henrik Henrik Thostrup Jensen <htj at nordu.net> Software Developer, NORDUnet
Diego was a reviewer for the Integrated Services Framework document we did in GEANT last year. He made some good suggestions. That ISF document referenced NSI as a key foundational technology in several areas. Also, NSI was referenced in the 5G PPP Architecture released by the EC about 18 months ago. It recommended NSI - but lamented that it did not do full virtualization. This could be easily solved if we extend NSI to reflect the broader Service Definitions of the generic virtualization model being refined by the GNA team. The GVM is in fact just an extension of NSI... The best thing we need to do is to have NSI running in our production R&E networks - _/all of them./_ Properly engineered. (Including the Open exchange points, regionals, campuses, etc. ) And make it available, and promote it for new applications. We have it running now, so this is not a hard or difficult thing... This will establish NSI as the defacto multi-domain atomic provisioning model for p2p circuits. BR Jerry On 7/3/19 1:50 PM, Guy Roberts wrote:
Hi NSI team,
I see that IETF are doing something that looks rather like NSI. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8453
I recognise a couple of names in the contributor list at the end… Diego Lopez form Telefonica and Gert Grammel from Juniper. I think they are probably both aware of NSI.
Has anyone from NSI tried to engage with the this group?
Guy
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Tel: +44 (0)1223 371316
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GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered with the Chamber of Commerce in Amsterdam with registration number 40535155 and operates in the UK as a branch of GÉANT Vereniging. Registered office: Hoekenrode 3, 1102BR Amsterdam, The Netherlands. UK branch address: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK.
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