Hi all, Is anyone planning to go to ietf in July? I am interested in the NETCONF working group as this has some similarities with NSI (both are web service based interfaces for configuring networks). From reading the RFCs it seems to me that NETCONF describes a method for configuring individual routers/switches rather than generic network based service requests. It would be interesting to see if there is any opportunity to learn from their experience or even align our work. If anyone is planning to attend ietf please let me know. Thanks, Guy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy Roberts, Ph.D Network Engineering & Planning DANTE - www.dante.net<http://www.dante.net/> Tel: +44 (0)1223 371 316 City House, 126-130 Hills Road Cambridge, CB2 1PQ, UK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Guy Roberts wrote:
Hi all,
Is anyone planning to go to ietf in July? I am interested in the NETCONF working group as this has some similarities with NSI (both are web service based interfaces for configuring networks).
Unfortunately, I wont have time to go. I, too, have an interest in NETCONF, in part from the perspective of the MANTICORE L3 virtualization effort. If you go, I'd be very interested in hearing about your experience. /Lars -- Lars Fischer <lars@nordu.net> Chief Technology Officer NORDUnet (http://www.nordu.net) & NDGF (http://www.ndgf.org) mobile: +45 2288 1729, office: +45 3246 2502, fax: +45 4576 2366
The Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) defined in this document
Hello Guy, all, i2CAT has practical expertise on Netconf derived from the Manticore project (which Lars mentioned). Indeed, as Eduard and myself commented on call conf the 17th of June, Netconf was born as a new interface API for network *device* configuration, not for whole networks. However, it is true that Netconf's XML messaging eases network configuration, since the same configuration pattern can be replicated on any box implementing Netconf iface. As a side note, it has to be noted that each manufacturer has its own implementation of the messages. Juniper networks have pioneered Netconf implementation in their devices and they've got pretty good documentation [1]. I hereby copy an excerpt of RFC 4741 showing the abstract (full text in [2]): provides mechanisms to install, manipulate, and delete the configuration of network devices. It uses an Extensible Markup Language (XML)-based data encoding for the configuration data as well as the protocol messages. The NETCONF protocol operations are realized on top of a simple Remote Procedure Call (RPC) layer. << My best regards, [1] http://www-jnet.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos95/netconf-guide/ne... [2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4741 -- Joan Antoni Garcia Espin CTX, Fundació i2CAT El dc 24 de 06 de 2009 a les 11:06 +0100, en/na Guy Roberts va escriure:
Hi all,
Is anyone planning to go to ietf in July? I am interested in the NETCONF working group as this has some similarities with NSI (both are web service based interfaces for configuring networks). From reading the RFCs it seems to me that NETCONF describes a method for configuring individual routers/switches rather than generic network based service requests. It would be interesting to see if there is any opportunity to learn from their experience or even align our work.
If anyone is planning to attend ietf please let me know.
Thanks,
Guy
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Hi Guy, all, The GN2 AMPS (Advance Multi-domain Provisioning System, a federated resource reservation system for Premium IP) also uses this API to configure Juniper routers. And indeed, as Joan Antoni pointed out, this API is used to configure a single network device, not the whole network. If you have valid GN2 credentials you may take a look at the page: http://wiki.geant2.net/bin/view/SA3/AmpsConfigurationService This gives a brief overview to the part of AMPS responsible for the configuration of network elements. I can try to dig a bit more, if some of you are interested to get more detailed description. Best regards, Bartek -- Bartosz Belter Poznan Supercomputing and Networking Center Network Department tel. +48 61 858 2028 http://www.man.poznan.pl
-----Original Message----- From: nsi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:nsi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Joan Antoni Garcia Espin Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:39 AM To: Guy Roberts Cc: NSI WG Subject: Re: [Nsi-wg] ietf NETCONF group
Hello Guy, all,
i2CAT has practical expertise on Netconf derived from the Manticore project (which Lars mentioned).
Indeed, as Eduard and myself commented on call conf the 17th of June, Netconf was born as a new interface API for network *device* configuration, not for whole networks. However, it is true that Netconf's XML messaging eases network configuration, since the same configuration pattern can be replicated on any box implementing Netconf iface.
As a side note, it has to be noted that each manufacturer has its own implementation of the messages. Juniper networks have pioneered Netconf implementation in their devices and they've got pretty good documentation [1].
The Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) defined in this document
I hereby copy an excerpt of RFC 4741 showing the abstract (full text in [2]): provides mechanisms to install, manipulate, and delete the configuration of network devices. It uses an Extensible Markup Language (XML)-based data encoding for the configuration data as well as the protocol messages. The NETCONF protocol operations are realized on top of a simple Remote Procedure Call (RPC) layer. <<
My best regards,
[1] http://www- jnet.juniper.net/techpubs/software/junos/junos95/netconf-guide/netconf- guide-TOC.html [2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4741 -- Joan Antoni Garcia Espin CTX, Fundació i2CAT
El dc 24 de 06 de 2009 a les 11:06 +0100, en/na Guy Roberts va escriure:
Hi all,
Is anyone planning to go to ietf in July? I am interested in the NETCONF working group as this has some similarities with NSI (both are web service based interfaces for configuring networks). From reading the RFCs it seems to me that NETCONF describes a method for configuring individual routers/switches rather than generic network based service requests. It would be interesting to see if there is any opportunity to learn from their experience or even align our work.
If anyone is planning to attend ietf please let me know.
Thanks,
Guy
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Joan Antoni Garcia Espin wrote:
i2CAT has practical expertise on Netconf derived from the Manticore project (which Lars mentioned).
Joan - any chance someone from I2Cat will be at the Stockholm IETF meeting? /Lars -- Lars Fischer <lars@nordu.net> Chief Technology Officer NORDUnet (http://www.nordu.net) & NDGF (http://www.ndgf.org) mobile: +45 2288 1729, office: +45 3246 2502, fax: +45 4576 2366
Hi Lars, Haven't discussed about that internally, but few chances at the moment. Best regards, -- Joan Antoni Garcia Espin CTX, Fundació i2CAT El dg 28 de 06 de 2009 a les 03:31 +0200, en/na Lars Fischer va escriure:
Joan Antoni Garcia Espin wrote:
i2CAT has practical expertise on Netconf derived from the Manticore project (which Lars mentioned).
Joan - any chance someone from I2Cat will be at the Stockholm IETF meeting?
/Lars
Joan Antoni Garcia Espin wrote:
Hi Lars,
Haven't discussed about that internally, but few chances at the moment.
OK. At least one person from NORDUnet will be going. /Lars -- Lars Fischer <lars@nordu.net> Chief Technology Officer NORDUnet (http://www.nordu.net) & NDGF (http://www.ndgf.org) mobile: +45 2288 1729, office: +45 3246 2502, fax: +45 4576 2366
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