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Re: [Nsi-wg] rfc8453
by Jerry Sobieski 04 Jul '19

04 Jul '19

Hi Afrodite- Thanks for this. Yeah, we should engage more with IETF and/or ETSI, etc. In the past this has been a bit difficult given lack of time and to some degree the need to get some of these technologies working and deployed... These ISGs also tend to be dominated by the commercials who often have significantly different drivers (and better budgets to support such activity). It would be nice if we can actually influence the Cisco's et al with things like NSI - these really are strong technologies. As another aside... at an MEF meeting last summer in Paris one of the Cisco Dev't Directors was speaking...He said in his talk that Cisco *_/explicitly wants to work with the pre-standards groups/_* doing the R&D on these types of protocols and service concepts... His specific reason was that this gained R&E experience is what helps define good standards. Without it, a "standard" is dramatically less likely to be used - or useful. I am heading off to the 4th of July weekend... I will ping you next week when I return... Maybe you have some time in next few weeks to chat about this? We really ought to revisit and refine that ISF document... I think GEANT should still be looking and trying to understand it and its implications in more detail. Thanks again Jerry On 7/3/19 3:12 PM, Afrodite Sevasti wrote: > > Hi all, > > working as in independent expert for the EC on 5G PPP for the last 4 > years, I was repeatedly recommending to stakeholders there that > industry initiatives with EC funding should evaluate NSI against the > industry developments on the field (e.g. MEF LSO). As a result, I saw > some NSI appearances in relevant documents but only in the level of > state-of-art comparison. > > As long as NSI is detached from ETSI, MEF and other industry works, it > is difficult to get traction. > > That’s why (@Jerry) I had recommended a thorough, technical comparison > and evaluation when I reviewed the ISF document. This is still missing. > > best regards > > Afrodite > > *From:* nsi-wg <nsi-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org> *On Behalf Of *Jerry Sobieski > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 3:01 PM > *To:* Guy Roberts <guy.roberts(a)geant.org>; chin(a)es.net; Tomohiro Kudoh > (kudoh(a)nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) <kudoh(a)nc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>; John Macauley > <macauley(a)es.net>; Jerry Sobieski (jerry(a)sobieski.net) > <jerry(a)sobieski.net>; Richard Hughes-Jones > <richard.hughes-jones(a)geant.org> > *Cc:* nsi-wg(a)ogf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Nsi-wg] rfc8453 > > Diego was a reviewer for the Integrated Services Framework document we > did in GEANT last year. He made some good suggestions. That ISF > document referenced NSI as a key foundational technology in several areas. > > Also, NSI was referenced in the 5G PPP Architecture released by the EC > about 18 months ago. It recommended NSI - but lamented that it did > not do full virtualization. This could be easily solved if we extend > NSI to reflect the broader Service Definitions of the generic > virtualization model being refined by the GNA team. The GVM is in > fact just an extension of NSI... > > The best thing we need to do is to have NSI running in our production > R&E networks - /_all of them._/ Properly engineered. (Including the > Open exchange points, regionals, campuses, etc. ) And make it > available, and promote it for new applications. We have it running > now, so this is not a hard or difficult thing... This will establish > NSI as the defacto multi-domain atomic provisioning model for p2p > circuits. > > BR > > Jerry > > On 7/3/19 1:50 PM, Guy Roberts wrote: > > Hi NSI team, > > I see that IETF are doing something that looks rather like NSI. > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8453 > > I recognise a couple of names in the contributor list at the end… > Diego Lopez form Telefonica and Gert Grammel from Juniper. I think > they are probably both aware of NSI. > > Has anyone from NSI tried to engage with the this group? > > Guy > > ** > > ** > > *Guy Roberts PhD* > > *Senior Network Architect* > > Tel: +44 (0)1223 371316 > > Mob: +44 (0)7881 336417 > > Skype: guy1965 > > Networks • Services • People > > Learn more at www.geant.org <http://www.geant.org/> > > > > GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered with the Chamber of > Commerce in Amsterdam with registration number 40535155 and > operates in the UK as a branch of GÉANT Vereniging. Registered > office: Hoekenrode 3, 1102BR Amsterdam, The Netherlands. UK branch > address: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nsi-wg mailing list > > nsi-wg(a)ogf.org <mailto:nsi-wg@ogf.org> > > https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsi-wg >

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rfc8453
by Guy Roberts 03 Jul '19

03 Jul '19

Hi NSI team, I see that IETF are doing something that looks rather like NSI. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8453 I recognise a couple of names in the contributor list at the end… Diego Lopez form Telefonica and Gert Grammel from Juniper. I think they are probably both aware of NSI. Has anyone from NSI tried to engage with the this group? Guy Guy Roberts PhD Senior Network Architect Tel: +44 (0)1223 371316 Mob: +44 (0)7881 336417 Skype: guy1965 Networks • Services • People Learn more at www.geant.org<http://www.geant.org/> GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered with the Chamber of Commerce in Amsterdam with registration number 40535155 and operates in the UK as a branch of GÉANT Vereniging. Registered office: Hoekenrode 3, 1102BR Amsterdam, The Netherlands. UK branch address: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK.

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Comments on NIST network security doc
by Jensen, Jens (STFC,RAL,SC) 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

Hi NSI folks, At a glance this seems to me (as an admittedly not-networking-expert) to be within the same spiritual area as GFDs 232 and 234. https://csrc.nist.gov/news/2018/nist-requests-comments-on-draft-sp-1800-14 You might wish to have a look and/or comment - it's open for comments till the 15th. Regards --jens

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Links to GFD 232, 233, 234, and 235 documents fixed
by Sill, Alan 17 Nov '17

17 Nov '17

With apologies for the delay, due entirely to over-booking on my part after being provided the information by Greg, the links to the following documents on the off.org/documents<http://off.org/documents> page have now been fixed. Thanks for your patience and apologies for the delay. Alan GFD Type Area Group Publication Title Authors GFD.235<http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.235.pdf> P-REC Infrastructure NSI-WG 2017-08-18 Error Handling in NSI CS 2.1 J. MacAuley, T. Kudoh, C. Guok GFD.234<http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.234.pdf> INFO Infrastructure NSI-WG 2017-08-18 Network Service Interface Signaling and Path Finding J. MacAuley, C. Guok, G. Roberts GFD.233<http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.233.pdf> P-REC Infrastructure NSI-WG 2017-08-18 Applying Policy in the NSI Environment J. MacAuley, T. Kudoh, C. Guok, G. Roberts GFD.232<http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.232.pdf> P-REC Infrastructure NSI-WG 2017-08-18 NSI Authentication and Authorization H. Trompert, J. MacAuley

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New document in public comment: Network Service Interface Document Distribution Service
by Guy Roberts 07 Jul '17

07 Jul '17

Hello NSI team, The Document Distribution Service is now available for public comment. See below for details. Guy -----Original Message----- From: wg-all [mailto:wg-all-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Newby Sent: 07 July 2017 15:31 To: All OGF <wg-all(a)ogf.org> Subject: [wg-all] OGF: New document in public comment: Network Service Interface Document Distribution Service Dear OGF Community: An OGF document is now available for public comment. Please consider reading and providing feedback. Brief affirmations are very useful to demonstrate community input and support. More detailed analysis is, of course, welcome. The document newly available for public comment is: * Network Service Interface Document Distribution Service, via the NSI working group This is a Recommendation Track document, with a 60-day public comment period (through September 1, 2017). Access this document, and the public comment forum tracker, here: https://redmine.ogf.org/projects/editor-pubcom/boards/40 http://redmine.ogf.org/projects/editor-pubcom/boards Note that public comments are received via the Open Grid Forum Redmine instance. Anyone may register for a Redmine username. -- Greg Newby, OGF Standards Editor -- Gregory Newby Ph.D. Chief Technology Officer / Chef de la Technologie gbnewby(a)computecanada.ca / (o) 416.228.1234 (f) 416.907.1555 (c) 613.334.8373 155 University Avenue, Suite 302, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5H 3B7 www.computecanada.ca / www.calculcanada.ca / @ComputeCanada -- The wg-all mailing list is an umbrella list for all OGF mailing lists. If you are subscribed to any OGF mailing list, you will receive mails to wg-all. wg-all mailing list wg-all(a)ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-all

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multi-point proposal
by Guy Roberts 29 Jun '17

29 Jun '17

Hello NSI team, There was a discussion at Monday’s meeting about revisiting the idea of an NSI multi-point service. I have attached the presentation by Miyamoto where he presented a proposal for such a service in our Chicago meeting. Regards, Guy Guy Roberts PhD Senior Network Architect Tel: +44 (0)1223 371316 Mob: +44 (0)7881 336417 Skype: guy1965 Networks • Services • People Learn more at www.geant.org<http://www.geant.org/> GÉANT is the collective trading name of the GÉANT Association in Amsterdam, NL, and of GEANT Limited in Cambridge, UK GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered in the Netherlands with the Chamber of Commerce in Amsterdam<http://www.kvk.nl/english/traderegister/default.asp>. Registration number: 40535155. Registered office: Singel 468 D, Amsterdam 1017 AW, The Netherlands GEANT Limited is registered in England & Wales. Registration number: 2806796. Registered office: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK.

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notes from NSI-WG face-to-face meeting in Linz
by Guy Roberts 05 Jun '17

05 Jun '17

Hello All, It was great to see a good turnout at the NSI meeting in Linz. There was an active discussion and several requests for new features. Please find slides and notes from the meeting here: https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/nsi-wg?folder_id=6620 Please check you action points and we will follow up on the next call. I propose a call on Wednesday 14th June at the usual time…. Details to follow. Regards, Guy Guy Roberts PhD Senior Network Architect Tel: +44 (0)1223 371316 Mob: +44 (0)7881 336417 Skype: guy1965 Networks • Services • People Learn more at www.geant.org<http://www.geant.org/> GÉANT is the collective trading name of the GÉANT Association in Amsterdam, NL, and of GEANT Limited in Cambridge, UK GÉANT Vereniging (Association) is registered in the Netherlands with the Chamber of Commerce in Amsterdam<http://www.kvk.nl/english/traderegister/default.asp>. Registration number: 40535155. Registered office: Singel 468 D, Amsterdam 1017 AW, The Netherlands GEANT Limited is registered in England & Wales. Registration number: 2806796. Registered office: City House, 126-130 Hills Road, Cambridge CB2 1PQ, UK.

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OpenNSA REST interface
by Henrik Thostrup Jensen 02 Jun '17

02 Jun '17

Documentation is here https://github.com/NORDUnet/opennsa/blob/master/docs/rest-interface And yes, protocol documentation can be that short. It is not 100% feature parity with the SOAP protocol. Some of that is intentional, and some just haven't been implemented (recursive query should probably be in there). Best regards, Henrik Henrik Thostrup Jensen <htj at nordu.net> Software Developer, NORDUnet

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Tomorrow's NSI meeting
by Guy Roberts 01 Jun '17

01 Jun '17

Hi team, We will meet at 9am tomorrow in the breakfast room at Marriott Courtyard for the NSI document editing meeting. We will then find a meeting room. Guy Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

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Tomorrow's NSI meeting
by Guy Roberts 01 Jun '17

01 Jun '17

Hi team, We will meet at 9am tomorrow in the breakfast room at Marriott Courtyard for the NSI document editing meeting. We will then find a meeting room. Guy Sent from my iPhone

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