Hi all, Jim Ferguson's email about a 3:30 meeting reminded me to let you all know about this related workshop, occurring earlier the same day: Grid Applications and Performance BoF SC|05, Tuesday November 15th, 12:15-13:15, room 615-616 The SC|05 Grid Applications and Performance BoF is being held to facilitate discussion between application scientists and performance tool developers over the performance needs of applications and how tool developers can help satisfy those needs. Applications are being slowly adapted to run over multiple administrative domains in a coordinated manner, but seldom achieve even a fraction of the performance possible with their underlying systems. This is in part due to users rarely knowing what performance could be achieved, which in turn is mainly caused by a lack of data from which estimates of baseline performance can be formulated. Without such estimates it is not possible to compare current application performance with that achievable through some degree of tuning. The BoF follows a successful Third International Grid Performance Workshop at which application scientists and tool developers joined to identify recommendations for future work. The workshop findings are summarised in the workshop report <http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/~schopf/GPW2005/report.pdf>http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/~schopf/GPW2005/report.pdf and represent possible discussion topics for the BoF. -Dan