We can do this in the abstract, e.g. proteomics has strong HPC, data, security mgt requirements etc hence needs Grid based solutions. But from my perspective, we should be looking in more detail at the specific OGF efforts and how they support proteomics based research (or not) - if proteomics is the focus of this next meeting that is. Otherwise we end up with a set of interesting presentations to life scientists but serve no real benefit to the Grid community at large - which surely is the point for folk to go to OGF meetings. Note I have taken the liberty of copying these discussions to the wider LSG-RG email list, since email discussions behind closed doors is one of the issues this group needs to stop. More than happy for folk to disagree with me... Cheers, R. ________________________________ From: Abbas Farazdel [mailto:farazdel@us.ibm.com] Sent: 27 October 2007 21:17 To: Richard Sinnott Cc: Vincent Breton; Angulo, David; fumikazu@gsc.riken.jp; Richard Sinnott Subject: RE: Proposed message I assume the focus of the presentations should address the following questions and not just covering merely proteomics): 1) How grid computing can be used to help proteomics scientists and professionals to achieve breakthrough science or shorter time-to-solution; and 2) Are there any requirements in the area of proteomics that presently is not addressed by OGF groups but should be addressed. Best Regards, Dr. Abbas Farazdel Blue Gene Solutions Executive - Petascale Computing IBM Systems & Technology Group Office: +1 845 433 1652 (t/l-293); Mobile: +1 845 216 4066 Fax: +1 845 491 3569 Email: farazdel@us.ibm.com <mailto:farazdel@us.ibm.com> http://www.ibm.com/servers/deepcomputing/bluegene.html <http://www.ibm.com/servers/deepcomputing/bluegene.html> "Richard Sinnott" <ros@dcs.gla.ac.uk> 10/27/2007 02:03 PM To "Angulo, David" <dangulo@cti.depaul.edu>, <fumikazu@gsc.riken.jp>, Abbas Farazdel/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS, "Vincent Breton" <breton@clermont.in2p3.fr> cc <r.sinnott@nesc.gla.ac.uk> Subject RE: Proposed message As long as the proteomics presentations are aligned with the work on-going within the OGF standards/implementations of those standards etc, then I am all for this. From my own perspective, LSG-RG should be telling people what works with OGF specs and what doesn't. Thus we should be asking is anyone out there in LSG-RG land using the imlementations of DAIS, ByteIO, OGSA-BES, authZ, etc etc. There are many other life science conferences/workshops where folk can talk about proteomics more generally etc. Having talks about non-specific OGF related applications in the life science domain for me does not make much sense. Thoughts? R. PS Please use the r.sinnott@nesc.gla.ac.uk as I no longer get emails directly forwarded from my DCS account. -----Original Message----- From: Angulo, David [mailto:dangulo@cti.depaul.edu <mailto:dangulo@cti.depaul.edu> ] Sent: Sat 27/10/2007 17:15 To: Fumikazu KONISHI <fumikazu@gsc.riken.jp>; Abbas Farazdel; Vincent Breton; Richard Sinnott Subject: Proposed message Dear all: Please give feedback before Sunday, 5PM Chicago Time (CST). At that time, if I have no feedback, I will send this message. ======================== Dear all: This is an e-mail message regarding the Life Science Grid Research Group (LSG-RG) in the Open Grid Forum (OGF), formerly the Global Grid Forum (GGF). I will give a background of this group at the end of this message. First, though, let me state the purpose of this message. Our group has been extremely active since 2002, but the visibility of our activities has waned. One suggestion, which we believe is quite on target, was to plan future meetings through our e-mail list (through which you are receiving this message). I would like to start out such an effort by asking for input in planning our next meeting, which will be help in February 2008 in Boston. At the meeting in Seattle last week, the attendees were extremely interested in the proteomics presentations, and the group decided that we would solicit proteomics experts to speak at the next meeting. Thus, I would like to extend a call for presentations in proteomics. We would like to specifically look for proteomic mass spectrometry presentations, but all will be considered. I would like the membership of this e-mail list to help us in the solicitation of speakers, and would like to solicit your input into what topics and/or speakers we should pursue. I'm looking forward to input from all. David Sigfredo Angulo Faculty DePaul University 312-362-5041 dangulo@cti.depaul.edu