Here are connection details for tomorrows telecon. 14:00 UTC Dial in number (760) 569-9000 Access Code: 313809 If we decide to use screen sharing it will be at uvacse.glance.net code: 1019 --Mike
Michael, Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC : When I try using Skype to call number +1 760 569 9000, Skype requires me to pay for that. Can you provide a telephone number which is free of charge using Skype (like +9900827045746500 used in the past by OGF PGI) ? Alternatively, I can set up an EVO conference call (including screen sharing) free of charge very quickly. Thank you in advance for a quick answer. Best regards. ----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr ----------------------------------------------------- On 18/10/2011 22:18, Michael Saravo wrote:
Here are connection details for tomorrows telecon.
14:00 UTC
Dial in number (760) 569-9000 Access Code: 313809
If we decide to use screen sharing it will be at
uvacse.glance.net code: 1019
--Mike -- jsdl-wg mailing list jsdl-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/jsdl-wg
Etienne, I dont think changing connection details minutes before the call is a good idea. We can re-evaluate for the next call. I was told using this number would not pose any issues, but we can discuss it on todays call. --Mike On 10/19/2011 08:56 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
When I try using Skype to call number +1 760 569 9000, Skype requires me to pay for that.
Can you provide a telephone number which is free of charge using Skype (like +9900827045746500 used in the past by OGF PGI) ?
Alternatively, I can set up an EVO conference call (including screen sharing) free of charge very quickly.
Thank you in advance for a quick answer.
Best regards.
Michael, Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC : - WHO told you that organizing an INTERNATIONAL conference call using a PROPRIETARY American telephone number would not pose any issues ? In fact, due to the short notice, this forces most NON-American stakeholders to pay for the call using their own credit card ! - Besides, please provide urgently the AGENDA. Without a sound agenda, I will NOT even try to connect. Regards. ----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr ----------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 19/10/2011 14:58, Michael Saravo wrote:
Etienne,
I dont think changing connection details minutes before the call is a good idea. We can re-evaluate for the next call. I was told using this number would not pose any issues, but we can discuss it on todays call.
--Mike On 10/19/2011 08:56 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
When I try using Skype to call number +1 760 569 9000, Skype requires me to pay for that.
Can you provide a telephone number which is free of charge using Skype (like +9900827045746500 used in the past by OGF PGI) ?
Alternatively, I can set up an EVO conference call (including screen sharing) free of charge very quickly.
Thank you in advance for a quick answer.
Best regards.
hi, On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 15:13 +0200, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
- WHO told you that organizing an INTERNATIONAL conference call using a PROPRIETARY American telephone number would not pose any issues ? In fact, due to the short notice, this forces most NON-American stakeholders to pay for the call using their own credit card !
- Besides, please provide urgently the AGENDA. Without a sound agenda, I will NOT even try to connect.
and: thank you, Michael, for taking up the rewarding task of chairing OGF meetings, which is almost certainly not what you're getting paid for. Seriously, can we try to maintain a certain level of civility. Thanks, Bernd.
Regards.
----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr -----------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 19/10/2011 14:58, Michael Saravo wrote:
Etienne,
I dont think changing connection details minutes before the call is a good idea. We can re-evaluate for the next call. I was told using this number would not pose any issues, but we can discuss it on todays call.
--Mike On 10/19/2011 08:56 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
When I try using Skype to call number +1 760 569 9000, Skype requires me to pay for that.
Can you provide a telephone number which is free of charge using Skype (like +9900827045746500 used in the past by OGF PGI) ?
Alternatively, I can set up an EVO conference call (including screen sharing) free of charge very quickly.
Thank you in advance for a quick answer.
Best regards.
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Dear All, Am 19.10.11 15:13 schrieb "Etienne URBAH" unter <urbah@lal.in2p3.fr>: >Michael, > >Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at >14h00 UTC : > >- WHO told you that organizing an INTERNATIONAL conference call using a >PROPRIETARY American telephone number would not pose any issues ? > In fact, due to the short notice, this forces most NON-American >stakeholders to pay for the call using their own credit card ! I think that having a list of international numbers in the future is something we need, but I do not see a general problem for today. I for example can just use my land line at work. >- Besides, please provide urgently the AGENDA. > Without a sound agenda, I will NOT even try to connect. We have a number of changes, including leadership, to face and we need to bring JSDL up to speed again. Therefore the main (and from my viewpoint) only agenda item is to discuss the how to proceed with JSDL. This includes: - Proper scope definition (which is also valid for communication outside JSDL) - Definition of clear goals for the next months - Leadership - Review of Lyon Any other items are highly welcome, but can also be added during the call. Best regards, Philipp. > >Regards. > >----------------------------------------------------- >Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS > Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France >Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah >Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr >----------------------------------------------------- > > >On Wed, 19/10/2011 14:58, Michael Saravo wrote: >> Etienne, >> >> I dont think changing connection details minutes before the call is a >> good idea. We can re-evaluate for the next call. I was told using this >> number would not pose any issues, but we can discuss it on todays call. >> >> >> --Mike >> On 10/19/2011 08:56 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote: >>> Michael, >>> >>> Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 >>> at 14h00 UTC : >>> >>> When I try using Skype to call number +1 760 569 9000, Skype requires >>> me to pay for that. >>> >>> Can you provide a telephone number which is free of charge using Skype >>> (like +9900827045746500 used in the past by OGF PGI) ? >>> >>> Alternatively, I can set up an EVO conference call (including screen >>> sharing) free of charge very quickly. >>> >>> Thank you in advance for a quick answer. >>> >>> Best regards. >> >
Etienne, I only found out yesterday that UVa would provide the number for this call. I will forward your dissatisfaction of the choice of number appropriately and we will come up with an alternative for next time. I did not decide to have a meeting today. That was Philip Wieder and again I only found out I was "hosting" yesterday. The call is over, it was just to discuss how to move forward, any change in management is going to require a short spin up period and both chairs have changed simultaneously. I appreciate your feedback and we will be providing both a doodle poll (today) to establish the ongoing actual JSDL meetings and for the meetings we setup we will try to regularly provide an agenda ahead of time. --Mike On 10/19/2011 09:13 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
- WHO told you that organizing an INTERNATIONAL conference call using a PROPRIETARY American telephone number would not pose any issues ? In fact, due to the short notice, this forces most NON-American stakeholders to pay for the call using their own credit card !
- Besides, please provide urgently the AGENDA. Without a sound agenda, I will NOT even try to connect.
Regards.
----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr -----------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 19/10/2011 14:58, Michael Saravo wrote:
Etienne,
I dont think changing connection details minutes before the call is a good idea. We can re-evaluate for the next call. I was told using this number would not pose any issues, but we can discuss it on todays call.
--Mike On 10/19/2011 08:56 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
When I try using Skype to call number +1 760 569 9000, Skype requires me to pay for that.
Can you provide a telephone number which is free of charge using Skype (like +9900827045746500 used in the past by OGF PGI) ?
Alternatively, I can set up an EVO conference call (including screen sharing) free of charge very quickly.
Thank you in advance for a quick answer.
Best regards.
Michael, Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC : Thank you for your answers. I understand that things are not always easy for you, and I thank you for your efforts. I will call number +1 760 569 9000 in 12 minutes. Best regards. ----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr ----------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 19/10/2011 15:30, Michael Saravo wrote:
Etienne,
I only found out yesterday that UVa would provide the number for this call. I will forward your dissatisfaction of the choice of number appropriately and we will come up with an alternative for next time.
I did not decide to have a meeting today. That was Philip Wieder and again I only found out I was "hosting" yesterday. The call is over, it was just to discuss how to move forward, any change in management is going to require a short spin up period and both chairs have changed simultaneously. I appreciate your feedback and we will be providing both a doodle poll (today) to establish the ongoing actual JSDL meetings and for the meetings we setup we will try to regularly provide an agenda ahead of time.
--Mike
On 10/19/2011 09:13 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
- WHO told you that organizing an INTERNATIONAL conference call using a PROPRIETARY American telephone number would not pose any issues ? In fact, due to the short notice, this forces most NON-American stakeholders to pay for the call using their own credit card !
- Besides, please provide urgently the AGENDA. Without a sound agenda, I will NOT even try to connect.
Regards.
----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr -----------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 19/10/2011 14:58, Michael Saravo wrote:
Etienne,
I dont think changing connection details minutes before the call is a good idea. We can re-evaluate for the next call. I was told using this number would not pose any issues, but we can discuss it on todays call.
--Mike On 10/19/2011 08:56 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
When I try using Skype to call number +1 760 569 9000, Skype requires me to pay for that.
Can you provide a telephone number which is free of charge using Skype (like +9900827045746500 used in the past by OGF PGI) ?
Alternatively, I can set up an EVO conference call (including screen sharing) free of charge very quickly.
Thank you in advance for a quick answer.
Best regards.
All, I have spoken with Philipp and Michel already. There was also some time zone confusion. There will NOT be another call in 12 minutes. There will be a doodle poll going out by the end of the day to pick a regular JSDL meeting time slot (chosen by the end of the day this Friday), with calls starting on the week of the 31st (whichever day is picked). Sorry for the confusion. --Mike On 10/19/2011 09:47 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
Thank you for your answers.
I understand that things are not always easy for you, and I thank you for your efforts.
I will call number +1 760 569 9000 in 12 minutes.
Best regards.
----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr -----------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 19/10/2011 15:30, Michael Saravo wrote:
Etienne,
I only found out yesterday that UVa would provide the number for this call. I will forward your dissatisfaction of the choice of number appropriately and we will come up with an alternative for next time.
I did not decide to have a meeting today. That was Philip Wieder and again I only found out I was "hosting" yesterday. The call is over, it was just to discuss how to move forward, any change in management is going to require a short spin up period and both chairs have changed simultaneously. I appreciate your feedback and we will be providing both a doodle poll (today) to establish the ongoing actual JSDL meetings and for the meetings we setup we will try to regularly provide an agenda ahead of time.
--Mike
On 10/19/2011 09:13 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
- WHO told you that organizing an INTERNATIONAL conference call using a PROPRIETARY American telephone number would not pose any issues ? In fact, due to the short notice, this forces most NON-American stakeholders to pay for the call using their own credit card !
- Besides, please provide urgently the AGENDA. Without a sound agenda, I will NOT even try to connect.
Regards.
----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr -----------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 19/10/2011 14:58, Michael Saravo wrote:
Etienne,
I dont think changing connection details minutes before the call is a good idea. We can re-evaluate for the next call. I was told using this number would not pose any issues, but we can discuss it on todays call.
--Mike On 10/19/2011 08:56 AM, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Michael,
Concerning OGF JSDL telephone conference on Wednesday 19 October 2011 at 14h00 UTC :
When I try using Skype to call number +1 760 569 9000, Skype requires me to pay for that.
Can you provide a telephone number which is free of charge using Skype (like +9900827045746500 used in the past by OGF PGI) ?
Alternatively, I can set up an EVO conference call (including screen sharing) free of charge very quickly.
Thank you in advance for a quick answer.
Best regards.
participants (4)
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Bernd Schuller -
Etienne URBAH -
Michael Saravo -
Wieder, Philipp