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process count fields
by Karl Czajkowski 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

I wasn't sure if Chris was taking on sorting out the posix element, so I wanted to add my memory regarding the process count fields because they seem misleading in the minutes document from the call. There are two mostly unrelated concepts: 1) a process or task count for the job, which should use the range value type 2) a posix limit "max user processes" that should have integer type and is a sibling to the other limits like stack size, VM size, file descriptors, etc. it is probably a mistake to make these have names which look too similar and incorrectly imply that they are very closely related... karl -- Karl Czajkowski karlcz(a)univa.com

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by Ali Anjomshoaa 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~ali/WORK/GGF/JSDL-WG/index.txt -- ---------------------------------------------------- |epcc| - Ali Anjomshoaa EPCC, University of Edinburgh James Clerk Maxwell Building Mayfield Road E-mail: ali(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk Edinburgh EH9 3JZ Phone: + 44 (0) 131 651 3388 United Kingdom Fax: + 44 (0) 131 650 6555 -------------------------------------------------------------

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JSDL: Here it is: MeetingPhone.co.uk Conference Call Confirmation
by Ali Anjomshoaa 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Try this: Conference Details Date: 19 April 2005 Start Time: 3:15 p.m. British Summer Time End Time: 5:10 p.m. British Summer Time UK number: Primary Dial-in Number: 0871.711.1515 (UK 10p National Rate) International number: * +44.870.088.5700 (For Callers Outside of the U.K.) * 01805.004.101 (For Callers in Germany) Participant Access Code: 20050419 Touch-Tone Quick Reference for Conference Call 0 Exit the Conference 4 Access the Help Menu 6 Toggle Mute/Unmute 8 Time Remaining in the Conference See you there!

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Re: [jsdl-wg] JSDL: Telecon...
by Ali Anjomshoaa 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Hang on folks, I'm about to set up a another call... Be with you in a minute. Ali On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Michel Drescher wrote: > "... The meeting has ended." > > WTH? > > Michel > > > On 19 Apr 2005, at 14:45, Ali Anjomshoaa wrote: > > > > > ...on the hour in 15 mins... > > > > > > Agenda (last week's minutes): > > > > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/document/Minutes_-_2005 > > -04-13/en/1 > > > > > > Web: > > > > Subject: JSDL > > Meeting > > URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xangoit/join > > Meeting ID: JSDL > > Attendee Key: Wxx*}$Hk4 > > Role: Attendee > > > > > > Phone: > > > > --> ext 3000 pin: 6444 > > > > Belgium - 0800-7053 > > Bezeq - 1-800-940-1786 > > France - 0800-903109 > > Germany - 0800-1815765 > > Hong Kong - 800-968932 > > Italy - 800874509 > > Japan - 00531123656 > > Korea-Tele - 00798-14-800-0512 > > Netherlands - 0800-0225447 > > Singapore - 800-1200766 > > Sweden - 020-7905043 > > Taiwan - 00801-13-8546 > > UK - 0800961294 > > US - 800-933-3594 > > > > --> ext 3000 pin: 6444 > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ali > > > > -- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- |epcc| - > > Ali Anjomshoaa > > EPCC, University of Edinburgh > > James Clerk Maxwell Building > > Mayfield Road E-mail: ali(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk > > Edinburgh EH9 3JZ Phone: + 44 (0) 131 651 3388 > > United Kingdom Fax: + 44 (0) 131 650 6555 > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- ---------------------------------------------------- |epcc| - Ali Anjomshoaa EPCC, University of Edinburgh James Clerk Maxwell Building Mayfield Road E-mail: ali(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk Edinburgh EH9 3JZ Phone: + 44 (0) 131 651 3388 United Kingdom Fax: + 44 (0) 131 650 6555 -------------------------------------------------------------

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JSDL: Telecon...
by Ali Anjomshoaa 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

...on the hour in 15 mins... Agenda (last week's minutes): https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/document/Minutes_-_2005-04-13/… Web: Subject: JSDL Meeting URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xangoit/join Meeting ID: JSDL Attendee Key: Wxx*}$Hk4 Role: Attendee Phone: --> ext 3000 pin: 6444 Belgium - 0800-7053 Bezeq - 1-800-940-1786 France - 0800-903109 Germany - 0800-1815765 Hong Kong - 800-968932 Italy - 800874509 Japan - 00531123656 Korea-Tele - 00798-14-800-0512 Netherlands - 0800-0225447 Singapore - 800-1200766 Sweden - 020-7905043 Taiwan - 00801-13-8546 UK - 0800961294 US - 800-933-3594 --> ext 3000 pin: 6444 Cheers, Ali -- ---------------------------------------------------- |epcc| - Ali Anjomshoaa EPCC, University of Edinburgh James Clerk Maxwell Building Mayfield Road E-mail: ali(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk Edinburgh EH9 3JZ Phone: + 44 (0) 131 651 3388 United Kingdom Fax: + 44 (0) 131 650 6555 -------------------------------------------------------------

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Issues for todays phone conference
by Michel Drescher 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Folks, here's a list of issues. It's huge in numbers, but most of it is (IMHO) quite quickly fixable. 1) Fig. 1 revision 2) Fig. 2 revision 3) Prefixes and namespaces (check and update) 4) Namespace should be in the table (and update) 5) Section 3 (spec doc) general revision and polishing up 6) Update explanation for jsdl:other usage 7) Possibly reformat ch. 4.2.1 8) JSDL compliance levels How much of jsdl a system must support, not just process. Probably a topic for later. 9) The statement "If not supported then the consuming system MUST reject the document." needs a bit more explanation or re-write. 10) When/why did HostName change from 0-1 to 0-n? (reverted) 11) Filesystem name and type and filesystem reference in DataStaging 12) Mountpoint environment variable. Is the current approach ok, or should we provide a separate mechanism, e.g, a tag that if present provides the name of the environment variable in which the MountPoint value must be present. 13) Should FileSystemID be changed (back) to FileSystemName. 14) DRMAA use case for defining filenames. We have to at least be able to show an example of how to define and stage out an <Output> file. 15) CreationFlag. Was this made optional or not? Confirm and delete comment. 16) Process Topology needs review. In particular are the examples ok or not, are the definition correct and so on. Delete the yellow comments once that is done. Not sure if we should define the precise allocation behaviour or allow for that to be defined instead. 17) Section "Extending JSDL" needs an owner. I expect this section to be about 1 page long so should not be too much trouble. 18) Normative Extension is out of place 19) re-check terminology for process topology and delete comments 20) "Bytes (octets of bits)" 21) Memory limit incomplete text 22) pipe size limit incomplete text 23) Update of security considerations in line with latest decisions (when we actually reach firm decision) 24) Complete author information (see my entry as reference) 25) Update contributors and acknowledgements 26) Complete list of Normative references, e.g., CIM is still missing. 27) Glossary owner 28) Translation tables need to be added Proposal: Karl for Globus/GRAM, Chris for LSF, Saga-san for Naregi, ??? for Condor, ... 28a) Put the translation tables into a separate document? 29) Promised examples for the appendix (But maybe this should be split off into a Primer) 30) Make citations in text of document reference real cross-references. 31) Complete example sub-sections --- For those that read until here: Is anything missing? Cheers, Michel

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Issues for All to Comment on
by Donal K. Fellows 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

The following issues (from the last telecon) need comment from multiple people; please feel free to jump in with anything you want to say on these topics. 12) Mapping mountpoints to environment variables (see spec 5.5.12) 16) Process topology section needs review 32) POSIXApplication/Executable cardinality (=1 vs <=1) On issue 32, my feeling is that having the Executable as optional is a good thing since this permits the processing engine to derive the executable name from the overall application name and version. I've known the same application be installed with multiple different names across multiple architectures within the same overall organization, some of which are non-trivial to guess[*], so concealing that sort of stuff from users is a distinctly good thing in my view. (Very few users want to know, and sometimes there are details of the job running process which we would prefer them not to see either.) Does anyone strongly disagree on this point re cardinality? Donal. [* Both Gaussian and Amber are nasty, but in different ways. ]

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JSDL: Telecon minutes
by Ali Anjomshoaa 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Hi all, the minutes of yesterday's telecon are on GridForge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/jsdl-wg/document/Minutes_-_2005-04-13/… Those on the call, you can find your actions in-lined in the minutes. Please ask for help with your actions if you don't have time or need input. Target someone you know is able to help and perhaps has time. Catch you on the call next Tuesday, when we can tick off a few more issues. Cheers, Ali -- ---------------------------------------------------- |epcc| - Ali Anjomshoaa EPCC, University of Edinburgh James Clerk Maxwell Building Mayfield Road E-mail: ali(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk Edinburgh EH9 3JZ Phone: + 44 (0) 131 651 3388 United Kingdom Fax: + 44 (0) 131 650 6555 -------------------------------------------------------------

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FW: Madeline Pulsipher
by Bill Nitzberg 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Subject: Madeline Pulsipher From: "Darren Pulsipher" <Darren.Pulsipher(a)xango.net> To: "Ashlee Rich" <Ashlee.Rich(a)xango.net>, "Stacy Pulsipher" <stacy(a)pulsipher.org>, <jsdl-wg(a)ggf.org> Madeline joined this world at 12:21 pm on Sunday April 17,2005. 7 lbs 11 oz. 20 inches long. She looks like her older sister did which means we will have another beautiful little girl in our family. Mommy and daughter are doing great and will be home soon. Darren

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Madeline Pulsipher
by darren＠pulsipher.org 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Madeline joined this world at 12:21 pm on Sunday April 17,2005. 7 lbs 11 oz. 20 ½ inches long. She looks like her older sister did which means we will have another beautiful little girl in our family. Mommy and daughter are doing great and will be home soon. Darren

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