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Minutes 8th August 2007
by A.S.McGough 08 Aug '07

08 Aug '07

Are online: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14703?nav=1 steve.. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr A. Stephen McGough http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~asm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Technical Coordinator, London e-Science Centre, Imperial College London, Department of Computing, 180 Queen's Gate, London SW7 2BZ, UK tel: +44 (0)207-594-8409 fax: +44 (0)207-581-8024 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [jsdl-wg] [ogsa-hpcp-wg] HPC Profile, BES and JSDL experiences document
by Steven Newhouse 07 Aug '07

07 Aug '07

All, Glenn thanks for this. In thinking how we can develop an experience document for HPCP, BES & JSDL this is an excellent start. In validating HPCP I think we need to make sure we tick boxes for the BES and JSDL specs. From a HPCP perspective the only real differences are (I think): * HPCP does not require that vector operations are support (while BES does) * JSDL has many more elements beyond the minimum for HPC Application profile. Could the JSDL group expand on how they would cover this. Do we need to develop a list of which implementations support which elements? Or have a JSDL document that exercises different JSDL feature sets? BES-Activity port types are now a non-normative component in the BES specification. The BES & HPCP specs are going through their final GFSG review before being published. So that we can move ahead on the interop testing - and expanding on Glenn's list - could someone from each group also report back on: * Are they willing and able to be involved in an interop activity leading towards SC07 * What implementation will they be using for the interop? * Will they be consuming and endpoint and/or contributing an endpoint? * Which version of the specifications does their implementation comply with? (SC06, pre public-comment, post public-comment, ...) * How long do they think it will take to update their implementation to match their final specification? * Who is the contact point and where are they - for the purposes of arranging telecons? * Are they on the HPCP list - please get on it so that can be used as the single communication point - cross-posting bad & non-archived communication very bad. * Do you support the HPCP username & password and/or the X.509 security framework? SC07 is not that far away so I feel we need to start the telecons and start driving the interop activities before we all vanish on vacation. Regards, Steven -----Original Message----- From: ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Wasson Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:08 AM To: ogsa-hpcp-wg(a)ogf.org Subject: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] HPC Profile, BES and JSDL experiences document Everyone, I have created a potential outline for the experiences document for HPC Profile, BES and JSDL. As you all know, each of these specs needs an experiences report as part of the OGF process and this document could satisfy that requirement for all 3. Please have a look. We are hoping to fill out the document based on experiences gained doing an interop demo for SC07. The exact scenarios for this demo are still to be decided, but right now we are looking for groups that want to be involved. Anyone who has an implementation (of the latest versions) of HPCP, BES and/or JSDL can potentially contribute to the demo and the document. Our interop demo at SC06 was very successful and we're looking forward to an expanded version this year. Please let me know if you are interested in taking part in the demo and we will set up a call/list/wiki for this. Glenn

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OGF21 sessions
by Andreas Savva 26 Jul '07

26 Jul '07

As discussed on last week's call we are planning three sessions for OGF21. I'll be submitting the session requests tomorrow. In outline: * Session 1 - JSDL 1.0 Implementations/Experience presentations - XQuery, Parameter Sweep Extensions * Session 2 - (Extensions (if needed)) - JSDL 2 * Session 3 Instance schema: Invited presentations on instance schema work and requirements Discussion of next steps We'll be discussing agendas in more detail later on, so things may change a bit by OF21. -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Query for URI attribute of DataStaging - Source Element.
by Nicholas Loulloudes 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

Hello, Is is possible the URI attribute of DataStaging-Source Element to include a local absolute path (i.e /home/user/directory/file.sh) ? Best regards, -- _________________________________________________ Nicholas Loulloudes High Performance Computing Systems Laboratory (HPCL) University of Cyprus, Nicosia, Cyprus Tel: +357-22892663 Email: loulloudes.n(a)cs.ucy.ac.cy

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Re: [jsdl-wg] Multicore representation in JSDL
by Andreas Savva 23 Jul '07

23 Jul '07

[Sorry for the late response.] Laurence, This isn't an urgent issue and I agree we should talk more about it, in the context of Ellen's Information Modeling Architecture paper. A call or the OGSA F2F might be a good venue for this discussion. Your response makes me think that I may have the wrong impression of where GLUE 2 is positioned in that architecture. Andreas Laurence Field wrote: > I think that we have a chicken and egg situation here. > > Should the Glue schema model what is required by JSDL or should the JSDL > contain what information is available? > > Personally I feel that this should be user driven and JSDL should define > what the user is looking for. The Glue Schema should reflect this and > decide the best way to provide this information. The user needs to > understand what are the important attributes about the resource to which > they have to match. I don't think it is up to the resource provider to > decide what attributes they think are interesting to be published. This > should all be use case driven and hence dependent on what the user > wishes to do. In any case all this needs to be discussed with both > groups involved. > > Laurence -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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FINAL CALL for JSDL SPMD Extension v 1.0
by Andreas Savva 20 Jul '07

20 Jul '07

The document "JSDL SPMD Extension v 1.0" is now out of public comment. There were no comments requiring revisions. So I will be resubmitting it back to the OGF Editor for publication in one week. If you have any last minute comments please make them to the list before *Friday, July 27.* The document: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13788?nav=1 The submitted comments: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor… -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Teleconference - 18 July 2007 at 2pm UTC
by Andreas Savva 17 Jul '07

17 Jul '07

Full call in details at the bottom of this email. I am not sure if we can reach quorum tomorrow, Wednesday, July 18, due to a number of people still on vacation or otherwise occupied. But I would still like to try and have a call at the usual time (2:00pm UTC). There are a number of things that we could talk about including OGF21 sessions, the documents that just came out of public comment, JSDL 1.0 errata, the Experience report, etc. We'll see who turns up and choose appropriately during agenda bashing. ===== Full call-in details ==== Date: 18 July 2007 Time: 14:00 UTC / 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT / 7:00 PDT / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net/?key=0718 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Final call on responses to HPC Profile Application Extension public comments
by Christopher Smith 15 Jul '07

15 Jul '07

A version of the HPC Profile Application Extension public comment period is over, and some changes were made in response to the comments. You can find an updated version of the document here: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13863 I've also attached a PDF version of the document. If you want to raise some issues on how the comments were addressed, please make them now as the document will be submitted back to the Editor for publication a week from now. Thanks, -- Chris

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[Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Multicore representation in JSDL]]
by A S MCGough 14 Jul '07

14 Jul '07

Bounced message...

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No call today - July 11
by Andreas Savva 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

Just to let you know that there is no call today, due to a number of our regular participants being on vacation or traveling. If we can reach quorum we may have a call later this week, or perhaps next week. In either case an agenda will be posted in advance. Apologies for the late notice. -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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