Apologies for the cross-posting!
For those who have been involved in BES, JSDL and the HPCBP work... there is a new activity starting in OGF that intends to build on work in this area... but for new use cases. See below:
<quote>
The Grid Interoperation Now (GIN) community group is happy to announce its spin-off standardization activity named Production Grid Infrastructure (PGI) working group. Both groups will complement each other and thus GIN proceeds to enable real e-science applications that require resources in more than one production infrastructure demonstrating the technical feasibility of interoperability using open standards wherever possible.
In contrast to GIN, PGI will formulate a well-defined set of profiles, and additional specifications if needed, for job and data management that are aligned with a Grid security and information model in order to address the needs of production Grid infrastructures based on the experiences gained in GIN. The resulting Web service interfaces and schemas defined by this working group will be a set of profiles of open standards and specifications such as OGSA-Basic Execution Services (GFD.108), Job Submission Description Language (GFD.136), GridFTP (GFD.20), Storage Resource Manager (GFD.129), and efforts of the GLUE2 (GFD tbc) working group. The additional work bv this group will go beyond the current specifications and extensions to focus on the missing links between these specifications taking reasonable authentication/authorization models into account – all tuned to the use cases found in production Grid infrastructures.
The PGI kick-off teleconference providing a ‘PGI 101’ is on Wednesday, 2009-01-07 at 4 p.m. CET (UTC+1). For more details please visit the PGI Website: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/projects/pgi-wg
</quote>
I assume call details will be circulated nearer the time by the WG chairs.
Steven
Dr Steven Newhouse
EGEE Technical Director
http://cern.ch/Steven.Newhouse
1. The minutes from the last few calls are now online. Apologies for the
delay in posting these. Please check them, especially if you think you may
have some action assigned to you....
Dec. 10. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15411?nav=1
Nov. 26. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15410?nav=1
Nov. 12 https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15409?nav=1
2. The next call is scheduled for 7 January 2009 (Wednesday) at 1pm
UTC/GMT.
3. We have requested two sessions for OGF25:
- General session
- Activity instance session
Finally I'd like to thank all group members and teleconference
participants in particular for their contribution in 2008. Wishing you
happy holidays and happy 2009.
--
Andreas Savva
Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd
** NOTE 1PM UTC TIMESLOT **
Confirming a call for Wednesday, 10 December, at 1pm UTC.
Agenda:
1. Agenda bashing & quick status updates
2. Parameter sweep public comments discussion (cont.)
3. Activity instance document schema (if updated draft)
===== Full call-in details ====
Date: 10 December 2008
Time: UTC 1 PM
EUROPE: GMT 1 PM / CET 2 PM
US: EST 8 AM
ASIA: JST 10 PM
Duration: 1 hour
Dial-in numbers (toll):
US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or
+1 408 9616509 (San Jose)
UK: +44 207 3655269 (London)
Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt)
Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo)
Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j
User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf
Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991
Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net/?key=1210
Note: When you dial in after the initial message in English for the PIN
there is another message in Japanese only (sorry) to state your name and
press '#' in order to join the call.
--
Andreas Savva
Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd
Hi All,
Are there any plans to extend JSDL to support SOA-type jobs? I know this
is not a part of the standard right now, and Microsoft added their own
extension in Windows HPC 2008. With this extension, JSDL file looks
something like
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<jsdl:JobDefinition
xmlns:jsdl="http://schemas.ggf.org/jsdl/2005/11/jsdl"
xmlns:soa="http://schemas.microsoft.com/HPCS2008/hpcbp/soa"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<jsdl:JobDescription>
<jsdl:JobIdentification>
<jsdl:JobName>SOA Echo</jsdl:JobName>
<jsdl:JobProject>HPCBP Project</jsdl:JobProject>
</jsdl:JobIdentification>
<jsdl:Application>
<soa:HPCS2008SOAJob ServiceName="CcpEchoSvc"
AllocationShrinkLoadRatioThreshold="75"
AllocationGrowLoadRatioThreshold="125"
ServiceStatUpdateInterval="30000"
ClientConnectionTimeout="30000"
ClientIdleTimeout="30000"
SessionIdleTimeout="1000">
<soa:JobPriority>Normal</soa:JobPriority>
<soa:Project>SOA Test Project</soa:Project>
<soa:Runtime>100</soa:Runtime>
<soa:ServiceJobName>SOA Test Job</soa:ServiceJobName>
<soa:ShareSession>false</soa:ShareSession>
</soa:HPCS2008SOAJob>
</jsdl:Application>
<jsdl:Resources>
<!-- .... removed .... -->
</jsdl:Resources>
</jsdl:JobDescription>
</jsdl:JobDefinition>
So if there are plans to support something like this in JSDL/Basic
Profile, is there any guidance on when approximately it will be
available? I am researching cross-vendor API for various grid providers,
and the absence of SOA support is a big issue now. Any information on
this is greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Leonid
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