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Teleconference minutes - 25 April 2007
by Andreas Savva 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Today's minutes are on gridforge http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc14414?nav=1 The next call will be after OGF20. -- Andreas Savva

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Re: [jsdl-wg] JSDL 1.0 presentation at the OGF 20 conference
by Gabor ROCZEI 25 Apr '07

25 Apr '07

Dear Steve and the others, > One other thing is that, as you might know, we are about to publish a > JSDL errata document. Do you have any comments for that? Now would be a > very good time to give us some feed-back. > > steve.. FEED-BACK: JSDL errata: 1. JSDL namespace: Job Submission Description Language (JSDL) Specification, Version 1.0 (Errata draft 007006): jsdl http://schemas.ggf.org/jsdl/2005/11/jsdl HPC_Basic_Profile_v1.0: (http://www.ogf.org/Public_Comment_Docs/Documents/Feb-2007/HPC_Basic_Profile…) jsdl http://schemas.ogf.org/jsdl/2005/11/jsdl Which is the good? 2. Examples The pseudo-expression “5, 6.7777, 7.0, [50.3,99.5), [100-” (which indicates a disjoint range consisting of the values 5, 6.7777, 7.0, all values inclusive of from 50.3 up to, but not including, 99.5 and all values from 100 on up) can be encoded in a RangeValue as follows: <jsdl:Exact epsilon=”0.00001”> 6.7777 </jsdl:Exact> !!!! [6.7776900000000007, 6.7777099999999999] 3. CPU count: double or integer? For example: 5.6 CPU count value is good or not? I think that the CPU count MUST integer! Cheers, Gabor > > Andreas Savva wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Let's talk about it tomorrow on the jsdl call when we discuss the OGF 20 >> agendas. (We might be able to arrange for this during the first >> (general) session on Monday.) >> >> Btw, it's "OGF JSDL" rather than "OGSA JSDL". I know there are lots of >> specs with the OGSA prefix ... ;-) >> >> Thanks. >> Andreas >> >> Roczei Gabor wrote: >> >>> Dear Andreas Savva, Darren Pulsipher, Stephen McGough, >>> >>> I implemented the OGSA JSDL 1.0 in our Grid Underground (GUG, >>> http://gug.grid.niif.hu) middleware. I would like to share with you my >>> implementation experiences about the OGSA JSDL 1.0 standard at the OGF >>> 20 conference. Can I have a chance to present these? It will be about 10 >>> minutes. >>> >> >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr A. Stephen McGough http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~asm > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Technical Coordinator, London e-Science Centre, Imperial College London, > Department of Computing, 180 Queen's Gate, London SW7 2BZ, UK > tel: +44 (0)207-594-8409 fax: +44 (0)207-581-8024 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Gabor Roczei +36-30-690-0008 Research Associate roczei(a)niif.hu NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY +36-1-4503061/5015 http://www.niif.hu H-1132 Budapest, Victor Hugo u. 18-22. Key 0x6FABD32A: BD86 701C F6D2 8DE3 6D6B 6C03 8BFD FAB1 6FAB D32A

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JSDL Teleconference - 25 April 2007, 2pm UTC
by Andreas Savva 24 Apr '07

24 Apr '07

Our next call is Wednesday, April 25 at *2:00pm UTC*. Note that this is our last call before OGF20. Proposed agenda: 0. Note OGF IPR rules apply http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1. Early discussion/Agenda bashing/Updates 2. OGF20 sessions - discuss and confirm agendas Working draft on the wiki https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.jsdl-wg/wiki/OGF20 3. Continue text and tracker review for JSDL 1.0 errata release ===== Full call-in details ==== Date: ** 25 April 2007 ** Time: 14:00 UTC / 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT / 7:00 PDT / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net/?key=0425 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd.

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FINAL CALL for HPCP Application extension
by Andreas Savva 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

This is a final call for the HPC Profile Application extension for initial submission to the OGF Editor. A brief summary: > This document defines an XML schema for another JSDL Application > sub-element in addition to POSIXApplication. It is intended for use by > the HPC Profile being defined with the HPC Profile working group. Please have a look at the last version on gridforge (version 7) and let us of know of any comments by next **Thursday, April 19.** https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13863?nav=1 This is a recommendation track document so after it is submitted to the OGF Editor it will enter a 60-day public comment period. -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Regarding Data Staging Elements in JSDL
by Gargi B Dasgupta 12 Apr '07

12 Apr '07

Hi all: I have a question related to the Data Staging Element in JSDL. >From my understanding JSDL captures scheduling requirements for individual jobs. Also the Data Staging elements in JSDL specifies the input and output data needed/created by an application. Since JSDL does not capture inter-job dependencies, to define a workflow I would be using a flow language. My question is: In case of a workflow, with multiple job steps, and data transferring in and out between these steps, what is the natural home for these data staging elements. Is it in the workflow or in the individual JSDL elements. Will the Data Staging elements remain in JSDL and then transfers needed in the workflow be inferred from these JSDLs. Or will the staging be explicitly defined in the flow. Would like to know the group's thoughts on this. Thanks & Regards, Gargi Gargi B Dasgupta IBM India Research Lab Plot No. 4, Phase II, Block C ISID Institutional Area Vasant Kunj, New Delhi 110070 Email:gdasgupt@in.ibm.com Phone:+91 11 51292192

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Teleconference minutes - 11 April 2007
by Andreas Savva 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

Minutes are on gridforge: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14398?nav=1 The next call will be on April 25 (in two weeks) and it will be the last before OGF20. We will fix the agendas for OGF20 at that time. -- Andreas Savva

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JSDL Teleconference - 11 April 2007, 2pm UTC
by Andreas Savva 11 Apr '07

11 Apr '07

> NOTE TIME CHANGE FOR REGIONS USING DAYLIGHT SAVING. > > Time: 14:00 UTC / 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT / 7:00 PDT / 23:00 JST We are having another call this week, Wednesday, April 11 at *2:00pm UTC*, to try and work through some more of the errata text. Proposed agenda: 0. Note OGF IPR rules apply http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1. Early discussion/Agenda bashing 2. OGF20 plans - if there are any updates 3. Continue text and tracker review for JSDL 1.0 errata release (I'll upload a new draft with additional text before the call.) ===== Full call-in details ==== Date: ** 11 April 2007 ** Time: 14:00 UTC / 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT / 7:00 PDT / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net/?key=0411 ===== -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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GSA scheduling extensions to JSDL
by Donal K. Fellows 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

Hi Ariel We (the JSDL-WG) were wondering how things were going with your (the GSA-RG's) extensions to JSDL for scheduling which I believe you are working on. We'd particularly love to have some more info on what sort of things you're planning on. Donal.

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Teleconference minutes - 4 April 2007
by Andreas Savva 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Minutes are on gridforge. http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14378?nav=1 The next call is scheduled for next week (April 11) and an announcement will be sent out early next week. -- Andreas Savva

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JSDL Teleconference - 4 April 2007, 2pm UTC
by Andreas Savva 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

[Sorry for the late notice.] > NOTE TIME CHANGE FOR REGIONS USING DAYLIGHT SAVING. > > Time: 14:00 UTC / 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT / 7:00 PDT / 23:00 JST As mentioned a few weeks ago we are scheduled to have a call Wednesday, April 4, at *2:00pm UTC*. Full call-in details are at the bottom. It's been a while since the last call/meeting and OGF20 is coming soon. So as proposed agenda == Note OGF IPR rules apply == 1. Early discussion/Agenda bashing 2. OGF20 plans - We have three sessions scheduled 3. Review revised text and tracker for JSDL 1.0 Errata release (I'm working on my assignments and will upload a new draft before the call.) ===== Full call-in details ==== ** I've adjusted the local times below for Daylight Saving but please ** check that it is accurate for your timezone. ** The UTC time takes priority. Date: ** 4 April 2007 ** Time: 14:00 UTC / 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT / 7:00 PDT / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net/?key=0404 ===== -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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