Good points. It would be cool though if you guys could help us to create a new RPC package at some point. In the SAGA group, it is a question of available manpower, and also of available expertise, if/wehn we can come up with and updated RPC package on our own... Cheers, Andre. Quoting [Hidemoto Nakada] (Feb 22 2009):
Andre and Steven,
The following is my opinion.
- SAGA l/f is cool. for the users who want to use several capabilities of Grid, SAGA l/f will ease their burden.
- on the other hand, SAGA i/f is too rich for the users who just want to use one capability from the Grid, such as GridRPC. Without SAGA l/f, the API could be designed as simple as possible
- once the specific API (such as GridRPC) is specified, to change the i/f to adopt SAGA l/f will be straight forward and relatively easy. l/f is not essential, for me.
- therefore, in my opinion, the best way to specify an API on a specific area is that, -- specify the API in a way that is as simple as possible, -- then, adopt some l/f for the API if it is required.
regards,
- Hidemoto.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net> wrote:
Quoting [Steven Newhouse] (Feb 22 2009):
Hi Hidemoto,
We've never had such discussion at all.
Well, the SAGA group had this discussion - also with the DRMAA and GridCPR folx btw. And yes, we hoped that, at some point, people would simply adopt our L&F part, and add packages.
But at the end its up to the individual groups if they want to do that, or not. Let a thousand flowers bloom, right? Oh well, three... ;-)
Anyway, SAGA people will certainly try to add an update to their RPC package, which also incorporates the data management features. In previous OGF discussions, we already checked if that is expressable/implementable in SAGA (it is).
As Hidemoto said, that would be on top of GridRPC. Yes, duplication of effort to some extent.
Cheers, Andre.
What makes you think like that?
From conversations I've had at past OGFs! If the conversation has not taken place then it should. Please try and find some time with the SAGA folks in Catania.
It might be possible to adopt the SAGA look and feel, but we are not interested in the part now. For us, the part is not essential.
I would like a stronger reason to present to the standards council than the group feels 'that it its not a good idea'.
Steven -- Nothing is ever easy.
-- Nothing is ever easy.