Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement can be found at: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/d... We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one hour earlier, back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding changes around the world. --- Jim Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference --------------------------------- Attendees --------- Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler Agenda Items ------------ - Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion. - We changed all references to GGF to OGF. - We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to this last draft. - We removed unneeded references. - Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on WS-Agreement, two more to discuss negotiation including presentations from others who are starting on this topic.
Thanks for informing about the new document. I have to point out that my name was misspelled in the current document as Tiancho Li, which misses "a" before "o". Best regards, Tianchao Li Jim Pruyne wrote:
Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement can be found at:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/d...
We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one hour earlier, back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding changes around the world.
--- Jim
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Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler
Agenda Items ------------
- Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion.
- We changed all references to GGF to OGF.
- We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to this last draft.
- We removed unneeded references.
- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on WS-Agreement, two more to discuss negotiation including presentations from others who are starting on this topic.
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Dear Tianchao, sorry for the typo, I have corrected to. The updated version is here: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/... Best regards Wolfgang Tianchao Li schrieb/wrote:
Thanks for informing about the new document. I have to point out that my name was misspelled in the current document as Tiancho Li, which misses "a" before "o".
Best regards, Tianchao Li
Jim Pruyne wrote:
Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement can be found at:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/d...
We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one hour earlier, back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding changes around the world.
--- Jim
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Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler
Agenda Items ------------
- Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion.
- We changed all references to GGF to OGF.
- We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to this last draft.
- We removed unneeded references.
- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on WS-Agreement, two more to discuss negotiation including presentations from others who are starting on this topic.
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Tianchao, My apologies. I'm the one who entered it incorrectly, and I did it correctly and from memory. Thanks to Wolfgang for making the correction. --- Jim Tianchao Li wrote:
Thanks for informing about the new document. I have to point out that my name was misspelled in the current document as Tiancho Li, which misses "a" before "o".
Best regards, Tianchao Li
Jim Pruyne wrote:
Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement can be found at:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.graap-wg/d...
We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one hour earlier, back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding changes around the world.
--- Jim
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Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler
Agenda Items ------------
- Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion. - We changed all references to GGF to OGF.
- We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to this last draft.
- We removed unneeded references.
- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on WS-Agreement, two more to discuss negotiation including presentations from others who are starting on this topic.
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All, It's not clear to me whether the group has agreed to re-submit the WS-Agreement document to the editor pipeline (a necessary step before the specification can be published). To avoid any confusion, could one of the chairs please unambiguously announce the start of one-week working group last call on the list? And when that is complete, notify Greg Newby, Ramin Yahyapour and myself? The tracker in the editor pipeline for the WS-Agreement specification is: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf3388?nav=1 Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 15 March 2007 16:58 To: Tianchao Li Cc: GRAAP-WG Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] minutes from 3/14 telecon
Tianchao,
My apologies. I'm the one who entered it incorrectly, and I did it correctly and from memory. Thanks to Wolfgang for making the correction.
--- Jim
Tianchao Li wrote:
Thanks for informing about the new document. I have to point out that my name was misspelled in the current document as Tiancho Li, which misses "a" before "o".
Best regards, Tianchao Li
Jim Pruyne wrote:
Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement can be found at:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091
We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one
hour earlier,
back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding changes around the world.
--- Jim
Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler
Agenda Items ------------
- Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion. - We changed all references to GGF to OGF.
- We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to
---------- this last
draft.
- We removed unneeded references.
- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on WS-Agreement, two more to discuss negotiation including presentations from others who are starting on this topic.
----------
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I myself need more time to check the updates in the latest version. Best regards, Tianchao Stephen M Pickles wrote:
All,
It's not clear to me whether the group has agreed to re-submit the WS-Agreement document to the editor pipeline (a necessary step before the specification can be published).
To avoid any confusion, could one of the chairs please unambiguously announce the start of one-week working group last call on the list?
And when that is complete, notify Greg Newby, Ramin Yahyapour and myself?
The tracker in the editor pipeline for the WS-Agreement specification is: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf3388?nav=1
Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 15 March 2007 16:58 To: Tianchao Li Cc: GRAAP-WG Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] minutes from 3/14 telecon
Tianchao,
My apologies. I'm the one who entered it incorrectly, and I did it correctly and from memory. Thanks to Wolfgang for making the correction.
--- Jim
Tianchao Li wrote:
Thanks for informing about the new document. I have to point out that my name was misspelled in the current document as Tiancho Li, which misses "a" before "o".
Best regards, Tianchao Li
Jim Pruyne wrote:
Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement
can be found
at:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091
We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one
hour earlier,
back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding
changes around
the world.
--- Jim
----------
Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler
Agenda Items ------------
- Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion. - We changed all references to GGF to OGF.
- We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to
this last
draft.
- We removed unneeded references.
- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on
WS-Agreement,
two more to discuss negotiation including presentations
from others
who are starting on this topic.
----------
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Dear Tianchao, the latest version differs only by a small number of changes (resulting from the public comments) compared to the previous version. Additionally - as discussed at OGF19 - a general WS-Agreement fault has been included as described in the text of the spec already. All changes are described in the slides we presented at OGF 19. All wsdl and schema code has been verified by Jim and Oliver before adding them to the spec. Thus I think it should be feasible to check the updates within one week. Best regards Wolfgang Tianchao Li schrieb/wrote:
I myself need more time to check the updates in the latest version.
Best regards, Tianchao
Stephen M Pickles wrote:
All,
It's not clear to me whether the group has agreed to re-submit the WS-Agreement document to the editor pipeline (a necessary step before the specification can be published).
To avoid any confusion, could one of the chairs please unambiguously announce the start of one-week working group last call on the list?
And when that is complete, notify Greg Newby, Ramin Yahyapour and myself?
The tracker in the editor pipeline for the WS-Agreement specification is: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf3388?nav=1
Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 15 March 2007 16:58 To: Tianchao Li Cc: GRAAP-WG Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] minutes from 3/14 telecon
Tianchao,
My apologies. I'm the one who entered it incorrectly, and I did it correctly and from memory. Thanks to Wolfgang for making the correction.
--- Jim
Tianchao Li wrote:
Thanks for informing about the new document. I have to point out that my name was misspelled in the current document as Tiancho Li, which misses "a" before "o".
Best regards, Tianchao Li
Jim Pruyne wrote:
Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement
can be found
at:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091
We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one
hour earlier,
back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding
changes around
the world.
--- Jim
----------
Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler
Agenda Items ------------
- Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion. - We changed all references to GGF to OGF.
- We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to
this last
draft.
- We removed unneeded references.
- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on
WS-Agreement,
two more to discuss negotiation including presentations
from others
who are starting on this topic.
----------
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I'm working on it and it seems one week is enough. However, I should point out that the review is really necessary, even if the schemas and wsdls have been grammatically verified. A quick look at the schema and WSDLs has revealed a problem with the current version posted on the web, which was already addressed in Comment# 14. (http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/graap-wg/attachments/20070117/3f4c59d2/attachme...). The following definition should be removed from Agreement wsdl and agreement types schema accordingly. <xs:element ref="wsag:AgreementServiceReference" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" /> <xs:element name="AgreementServiceReference" type="wsag:AgreementServiceReferenceType" /> <xs:complexType name="AgreementServiceReferenceType"> <xs:sequence> <xs:any namespace="##other" processContents="lax" /> </xs:sequence> <xs:attribute name="ServiceName" type="xs:NCName" /> </xs:complexType> I understand the above definition is taken from the WSDLs and schemas I posted. However, at that time I was not sure if the AgreementServiceReference is really duplicate and I did not remove them. Instead, I simply modified AgreementServiceReferenceList to ref="wsag:AgreementServiceReference" minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" to address another issue (Comment #12). Since the result of discussion confirms that they are duplicate, the above definition should be removed from Agreement wsdl and agreement types schema too. I'm not sure if I should create a new comment. Best regards, Tianchao Li =============================== Institut fuer Informatik, TU Muenchen Germany WWW: http://www.lrr.in.tum.de/~lit e-mail: lit@in.tum.de Wolfgang Ziegler wrote:
Dear Tianchao,
the latest version differs only by a small number of changes (resulting from the public comments) compared to the previous version. Additionally - as discussed at OGF19 - a general WS-Agreement fault has been included as described in the text of the spec already.
All changes are described in the slides we presented at OGF 19. All wsdl and schema code has been verified by Jim and Oliver before adding them to the spec.
Thus I think it should be feasible to check the updates within one week.
Best regards
Wolfgang
Tianchao Li schrieb/wrote:
I myself need more time to check the updates in the latest version.
Best regards, Tianchao
Stephen M Pickles wrote:
All,
It's not clear to me whether the group has agreed to re-submit the WS-Agreement document to the editor pipeline (a necessary step before the specification can be published).
To avoid any confusion, could one of the chairs please unambiguously announce the start of one-week working group last call on the list?
And when that is complete, notify Greg Newby, Ramin Yahyapour and myself?
The tracker in the editor pipeline for the WS-Agreement specification is: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf3388?nav=1
Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 15 March 2007 16:58 To: Tianchao Li Cc: GRAAP-WG Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] minutes from 3/14 telecon
Tianchao,
My apologies. I'm the one who entered it incorrectly, and I did it correctly and from memory. Thanks to Wolfgang for making the correction.
--- Jim
Tianchao Li wrote:
Thanks for informing about the new document. I have to point out that my name was misspelled in the current document as Tiancho Li, which misses "a" before "o".
Best regards, Tianchao Li
Jim Pruyne wrote:
Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement can be found
at:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091
We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one hour earlier,
back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding changes around
the world.
--- Jim
----------
Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler
Agenda Items ------------
- Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion. - We changed all references to GGF to OGF.
- We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to this last
draft.
- We removed unneeded references.
- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on WS-Agreement,
two more to discuss negotiation including presentations from others
who are starting on this topic.
----------
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Dear Stephen, yes, the group agreed during the working group meeting at OGF19 in Chapel Hill to resubmit the WS-Agreement document to the editor. The protocol says that we would post the last call early February. However, there was some delay in incorporating and double checking of the last changes. Now the final version is ready since last week an we are ready to post the last call to the group. Best regards Wolfgang Stephen M Pickles schrieb/wrote:
All,
It's not clear to me whether the group has agreed to re-submit the WS-Agreement document to the editor pipeline (a necessary step before the specification can be published).
To avoid any confusion, could one of the chairs please unambiguously announce the start of one-week working group last call on the list?
And when that is complete, notify Greg Newby, Ramin Yahyapour and myself?
The tracker in the editor pipeline for the WS-Agreement specification is: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/artf3388?nav=1
Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:graap-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 15 March 2007 16:58 To: Tianchao Li Cc: GRAAP-WG Subject: Re: [GRAAP-WG] minutes from 3/14 telecon
Tianchao,
My apologies. I'm the one who entered it incorrectly, and I did it correctly and from memory. Thanks to Wolfgang for making the correction.
--- Jim
Tianchao Li wrote:
Thanks for informing about the new document. I have to point out that my name was misspelled in the current document as Tiancho Li, which misses "a" before "o".
Best regards, Tianchao Li
Jim Pruyne wrote:
Are attached. Note that the final draft of WS-Agreement can be found at:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/proje cts.graap-wg/docman.root.current_drafts/doc6091
We will meet again in two weeks. The time will be one
hour earlier,
back to 9:00 AM central time US with the corresponding changes around the world.
--- Jim
Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Wolfgang Ziegler
Agenda Items ------------
- Karl sent suggestions on re-structuring the pseduo-schema some. Wolfgang and Oliver suggest that we follow this suggestion. - We changed all references to GGF to OGF.
- We added some acknowledgements based on contributions to
---------- this last
draft.
- We removed unneeded references.
- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on WS-Agreement, two more to discuss negotiation including presentations from others who are starting on this topic.
----------
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Hi,
Notes from Mar. 14 Teleconference ---------------------------------
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- Three sessions have been requested for OGF20. One on WS-Agreement, two more to discuss negotiation including presentations from others who are starting on this topic.
we (AssessGrid project) would like to participate and give a presentation on our work on SLAs and negotiation. Regards, Dominic
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Tianchao Li -
Wolfgang Ziegler