Minutes from October 26 '05 Telecon Attendees --------- Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Heiko Ludwig Asit Dan Discussion ---------- - Let's move the meeting time one hour earlier because of daylight savings time in the US and EU. We'll do that starting next week. - The URL for the public comments has been sent out. - Toshi to group the large comment list from Stephen Pickles into the grammar ones vs. the ones that require discussion. - Managing the responses could be handled a little more formally, so we should be more clear on exactly what to be posted in a reply on the public comment tracker. - There was some concern at GGF that people could not tell how we were making decisions. Heiko proposes that we make our process clear in an e-mail to the mailing list. Jim will do this.
All, 1.) In case it helps Toshi to complete his action, I've attached a word document containing the comments I posted to the WS-Agreement public comment tracker, and I've indicated the items that _I_ think might require discussion. 2.) In what timezone(s) will the meetings be one hour earlier? I ask because in today's telcon of GGF compute area chairs (which started at the same time as the GRAAP telcon), we thought it would be a good idea in future to hold the compute area telcon (which will be held on the last Wednesday of each month) half an hour earlier to avoid clashing with the GRAAP telcon. So if we do that, will we just be ensuring that we clash again next month? Best wishes, Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: owner-graap-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 26 October 2005 16:39 To: GRAAP-WG Subject: [graap-wg] Minutes from Oct. 26 telecon
Minutes from October 26 '05 Telecon
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Heiko Ludwig Asit Dan
Discussion ----------
- Let's move the meeting time one hour earlier because of daylight savings time in the US and EU. We'll do that starting next week.
- The URL for the public comments has been sent out.
- Toshi to group the large comment list from Stephen Pickles into the grammar ones vs. the ones that require discussion.
- Managing the responses could be handled a little more formally, so we should be more clear on exactly what to be posted in a reply on the public comment tracker.
- There was some concern at GGF that people could not tell how we were making decisions. Heiko proposes that we make our process clear in an e-mail to the mailing list. Jim will do this.
Stephen M Pickles wrote:
All,
1.) In case it helps Toshi to complete his action, I've attached a word document containing the comments I posted to the WS-Agreement public comment tracker, and I've indicated the items that _I_ think might require discussion.
Thanks, Stephen. I also cut-and-pasted the comments into a top-level response in the public comment tracker.
2.) In what timezone(s) will the meetings be one hour earlier? I ask because in today's telcon of GGF compute area chairs (which started at the same time as the GRAAP telcon), we thought it would be a good idea in future to hold the compute area telcon (which will be held on the last Wednesday of each month) half an hour earlier to avoid clashing with the GRAAP telcon. So if we do that, will we just be ensuring that we clash again next month?
It will be one hour earlier in the US, and this is due to the daylight savings time change here. It will be the same time relative to GMT. --- Jim
Best wishes,
Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: owner-graap-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 26 October 2005 16:39 To: GRAAP-WG Subject: [graap-wg] Minutes from Oct. 26 telecon
Minutes from October 26 '05 Telecon
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Heiko Ludwig Asit Dan
Discussion ----------
- Let's move the meeting time one hour earlier because of daylight savings time in the US and EU. We'll do that starting next week.
- The URL for the public comments has been sent out.
- Toshi to group the large comment list from Stephen Pickles into the grammar ones vs. the ones that require discussion.
- Managing the responses could be handled a little more formally, so we should be more clear on exactly what to be posted in a reply on the public comment tracker.
- There was some concern at GGF that people could not tell how we were making decisions. Heiko proposes that we make our process clear in an e-mail to the mailing list. Jim will do this.
Hi: Stephen M Pickles wrote:
All,
1.) In case it helps Toshi to complete his action, I've attached a word document containing the comments I posted to the WS-Agreement public comment tracker, and I've indicated the items that _I_ think might require discussion.
Thank you very much.
2.) In what timezone(s) will the meetings be one hour earlier? I ask because in today's telcon of GGF compute area chairs (which started at the same time as the GRAAP telcon), we thought it would be a good idea in future to hold the compute area telcon (which will be held on the last Wednesday of each month) half an hour earlier to avoid clashing with the GRAAP telcon. So if we do that, will we just be ensuring that we clash again next month?
The reason is that day light saving time ends in US and Europe. Since Japan is too near the equator and does not have daylight saving time, if the time is not moved one hour earlier for US and Europe, it would mean that the for JST (GMT +9) the starting time would be one hour late.. (And means that in Japan the telecon would start from 1 AM, which would be a bit tough for people in Japan.) So, one option which the other participants kindly agrfeedd to had been to shift the meeting one hour earlier in US and Europe after the daylight saving time starts so that at least for people in Japan, it would still be from midnight. Best Regards Toshi
Best wishes,
Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: owner-graap-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 26 October 2005 16:39 To: GRAAP-WG Subject: [graap-wg] Minutes from Oct. 26 telecon
Minutes from October 26 '05 Telecon
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Heiko Ludwig Asit Dan
Discussion ----------
- Let's move the meeting time one hour earlier because of daylight savings time in the US and EU. We'll do that starting next week.
- The URL for the public comments has been sent out.
- Toshi to group the large comment list from Stephen Pickles into the grammar ones vs. the ones that require discussion.
- Managing the responses could be handled a little more formally, so we should be more clear on exactly what to be posted in a reply on the public comment tracker.
- There was some concern at GGF that people could not tell how we were making decisions. Heiko proposes that we make our process clear in an e-mail to the mailing list. Jim will do this.
-- Toshiyuki Nakata t-nakata@cw.jp.nec.com +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 8-22-60210)
Hi: Thanks to Stephen's word document (which I mostly followed but have categorised some more in the Discussion group) I've categorised Stephen's comments into 39 Grammatical ones and 19 Discussion ones. Hats off to Stephen for a really detailed checking (And it must have taken time to put them as comments with Page number line number etc.) The attached excel book has two sheets one for discussion and one for grammatical / expression wise corrections. I've also changed the Public Comment Format somewhat. 1)Finally found out how to use a hyperlink in excel so that the page can be referred to by just clicking on the title. 2)Decided to include all the contents in the excel sheet rather than to have to follow the link which results in larger volume in the table but should be quicker to refer to. (Makes 1) somewhat unnecessary..) 3)Will be distributing them in excel rather than in html format as you can browse more quickly with excel than with html. If anyone has problems, please let me know. I've also edited the draft document to reflect Stephen's "grammatical" corrections (The ones I marked as tentatively done in the excel sheet) . I will send the tentatively revised version to the co-chairs (and to Stephen) so that the co-chairs can put it in Grid-Forge as a tentative-correction draft that people can look into. (The numbers there are Stephen's and not my excel based numbers). I would suggest the authors look into it and see if they agree to the corrections and point out the ones they'd like to see otherwise in email rather than disccuss it on the telecon. One burning question. "37. Page 27, Section 4.2.6.3.1 Importance, first paragraph, second line Remove spurious “;”.=>Couldn't find it. Perhaps you mean the comma after "therefore"? Best Regards Toshi PS I had intended to put some of my knit pickin on the list as well but probably should first send them to the Public Comment? PPS I'll never try to paticipate in a teleconference with a cold and an unclear head again :-) Stephen M Pickles wrote:
All,
1.) In case it helps Toshi to complete his action, I've attached a word document containing the comments I posted to the WS-Agreement public comment tracker, and I've indicated the items that _I_ think might require discussion.
2.) In what timezone(s) will the meetings be one hour earlier? I ask because in today's telcon of GGF compute area chairs (which started at the same time as the GRAAP telcon), we thought it would be a good idea in future to hold the compute area telcon (which will be held on the last Wednesday of each month) half an hour earlier to avoid clashing with the GRAAP telcon. So if we do that, will we just be ensuring that we clash again next month?
Best wishes,
Stephen
-----Original Message----- From: owner-graap-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pruyne Sent: 26 October 2005 16:39 To: GRAAP-WG Subject: [graap-wg] Minutes from Oct. 26 telecon
Minutes from October 26 '05 Telecon
Attendees ---------
Jim Pruyne Toshi Nakata Heiko Ludwig Asit Dan
Discussion ----------
- Let's move the meeting time one hour earlier because of daylight savings time in the US and EU. We'll do that starting next week.
- The URL for the public comments has been sent out.
- Toshi to group the large comment list from Stephen Pickles into the grammar ones vs. the ones that require discussion.
- Managing the responses could be handled a little more formally, so we should be more clear on exactly what to be posted in a reply on the public comment tracker.
- There was some concern at GGF that people could not tell how we were making decisions. Heiko proposes that we make our process clear in an e-mail to the mailing list. Jim will do this.
-- Toshiyuki Nakata 中田 登志之 Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509)
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Toshiyuki Nakata