Are attached. We'll meet again on this Friday for an extra session trying to complete the spec before the next GGF. --- Jim Minutes from the April 7, 2006 GRAAP Telecon Attendees --------- Toshi Nakata Jim Pruyne Asit Dan Wolfgang Ziegler Chris Dabrowski Discussion ---------- - GGF17 sessions are all on May 10th starting in the afternoon (1:45PM), and running into the evening. - Spreadsheet row 17: We do not see the need for the symmetrical discovery of guarantee terms by service as it can be derived. Can you provide us a use case to help us see the need? As for the structure, comment, we agree, though we do provide some structure for alternatives. We do assume that all terms are non-optional, though in the case of guarantee terms business value can make them optional to a certain extent. We do support some higher level language to be used in terms. - Spreadsheet row 18: We consider the agreement state and the service state to be independent. For example, agreement creation does not necessarily mean that the service is created. Thus, it does not seem possible to have a state transition diagram that joins the service state with the agreement state. To do this, we would also need to link the agreement to the service when the service is being accessed, and we have not specified that at this time either. We have added text to make it clear that the service states are only applicable when the agreement is observed. - Spreadsheet row 19: Customer obligations can come from the template, or can be added by the initiator in to the offer, but all of the initiator obligations are in the offer. As for the qualifying conditions, the customer obligations (e.g. request rate) or the non-controllable ones (e.g. time) specify when the guarantee is applicable. ** Meta-comment, there are excellent questions from Shamima, and we should capture these answers in a FAQ sort of document. It can make the work we're doing here to answer these in detail more useful and more visible. - Spreadsheet rows 20 & 21: We need further clarification (a use case?) on this comment as we would hope that this is already addressed in the spec. - Spreadsheet rows 22 part 3, and row 24, and row 35: Should we reference XQueryX at all? The consensus is no. Jim to remove all references to XQuery.