Are attached. The next call will be in two weeks, on Oct. 11. --- Jim Minutes from the September 27, 2006 GRAAP Telecon Attendees --------- Jim Pruyne Asit Dan Toshi Nakata Tianchao Li(?) Discussion ---------- - GFSG is recommending a new 30-day public comment period on WS-Agreement due to the large number of comments we received previously. - Part of the suggestion is to solicit comments from outside of GGF (e.g. from OASIS). - Toshi can work on a change summary by extracting from the slides he did at previous GGFs. - Jim will apply the new header stuff to the document and will communicate with Greg Newby. - At GGF17: - Workshop for implementers at GGF was on intro. day and we heard from various approaches, including as a basis for higher-level operations such as negotiation. They were looking for the spec. to get stabilized. - Approach to getting a primer done is to annotate the slides from the tutorial given by Toshi and Heiko and make those more widely distributed. - Telecons will be every other week with a focus on the implementations. - Next GGF will be done more workshop style during the regular GGF session days to help the attendance and support. - The approach to interoperability is to try to use a subset of JSDL as the domain shared across implementations. We'll see what interoperability processes have been used in other WGs. - Negotiation was also discussed in a session. There's quite a bit of interest, but getting a spec. done in this area may be difficult. - Asit recommends that we get alignment with outside groups as a focus for the WG going forward as it is needed to see adoption of the spec.
We have been discussing interoperability issues in Globus, and one thing that is glaringly obvious is that we have to revise many of our WSDLs to support a new WS-Addressing specification, because the explicit elements/type are used in, e.g., the factory-like operations. Would it be worth loosening the WSDL here for WS-Agreement to have an xsd:any "envelope" to hold the endpoints, and English text explaining that a version of the WS-Addressing concept should be included? This would allow people to profile WS-Agreement for use in specific implementation environments without requiring a modified version of the WSDL. At worst, I guess we'd need to add a resource property to list the "supported addressing versions", e.g. element or type QNames, and maybe an extra factory extension element to express the client's restricted set of acceptable EPR versions for the newly created Agreement resource (in case the deployed service can handle more than one version)... What do you guys think? karl -- Karl Czajkowski karlcz@univa.com
Hi : Just to check,
- Toshi can work on a change summary by extracting from the slides he did at previous GGFs.
Can I concentrate on the 2nd round of Public Comments or would it be necessary to address the first round also? #My memory being as bad as it is, it would be easier to concentrate on #the 2nd round but if necessary, I can try the first round as well. #I just want to avoid unnecessary work ;-) Best Regards Toshi ------- NEC 中央研究所 主席技術主幹 中田 登志之 Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653
Just the second round should be sufficient. Thanks again. --- Jim t-nakata@cw.jp.nec.com wrote:
Hi : Just to check,
- Toshi can work on a change summary by extracting from the slides he did at previous GGFs.
Can I concentrate on the 2nd round of Public Comments or would it be necessary to address the first round also?
#My memory being as bad as it is, it would be easier to concentrate on #the 2nd round but if necessary, I can try the first round as well.
#I just want to avoid unnecessary work ;-)
Best Regards Toshi ------- NEC 中央研究所 主席技術主幹 中田 登志之 Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653 -- graap-wg mailing list graap-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/graap-wg
Hi Everyone:
- Toshi can work on a change summary by extracting from the slides
he did at previous GGFs.
Sorry for the delay but here it is at last. (Took quite a bit of time to trace things. My memory being as bad as it is :-() Please note that this is not the final one as I would like to check several things during the telecon. Best Regards Toshi
Hi Again:
Sorry for the delay but here it is at last.
Please use this one which fixes some bugs. Sorry for the confusion: best Regards Toshi -----Original Message
- Toshi can work on a change summary by extracting from the slides
he did at previous GGFs.
Sorry for the delay but here it is at last. (Took quite a bit of time to trace things. My memory being as bad as it is :-() Please note that this is not the final one as I would like to check several things during the telecon. Best Regards Toshi ------- NEC 中央研究所 主席技術主幹 中田 登志之 Toshiyuki Nakata Executive Chief Engineer Central Research Laboratories NEC Corporation +81-44-431-7653
participants (4)
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Jim Pruyne
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Karl Czajkowski
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t-nakata@cw.jp.nec.com
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Toshiyuki Nakata