url for the Web Services Policy WG in W3C

Toshi, As per the discussion in today's call, here is the url for the Web Services Policy Working Group Charter. http://www.w3.org/2006/04/ws-policy-charter.html You can find the WS-Policy document by following the WS-Policy? Member Submission link. Regards. Asit Dan, Ph.D. SWG SOA Design Requirements Phone: (914) 766-1767 Internet: asit@us.ibm.com ICSOC 06 PC Chair (http://www.icsoc.org)

Hello: Asit: Thank you very much for the pointer. I intend to attend today's teleconference, but I might fail to do so, so here are my views on PROS and CONS: PROS: Quote: from http://www.w3.org/2006/04/ws-policy-charter.html "Web Services Policy defines a flexible policy data model and an extensible grammar for expressing the capabilities, requirements and general characteristics of a Web service, and defines mechanisms for associating policies with Web service constructs. Web Services Policy is used to convey the conditions for an interaction between a Web service requester and a Web service provider." It would be good to have this related part in WS-Agreement described in a compatible way as that would make acceptance of WS-Agreement easier. CONS: 1)Adopting WS-Policy would mean that WS-Agreement would depend on a specification which still needs to be agreeed to. While the charter does say that "Therefore, this Working Group shall be schedule-driven and Web Services Policy shall remain compatible with and to the extent possible accommodate the use of these existing policy assertions. " Until the final draft is out, one may not know what will stay stable. The end date is 31 December 2007 which is a year and a half away. I think many people have been waiting for WS-Agreement spec to be completed and to have to really wait more might have negative effects. 2)Adopting WS-Policy would mean that there would be need to change the current implementations. I do not know how many implementations of WS-policy there are in the world but to have to modify the current imlplementation would have some negative issues (at least for the implementation people) for getting interoperability etc. 3)(This is a minor issue) Since this has a large impact, we might need another call of public comments. All in all I would suggest that for this version of the spec, we should stick to the current spec to be released and consider the modifications for the next version of the specification. Best regards Toshi ----- Toshiyuki Nakata 中田 登志之 Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509)
-----Original Message----- From: owner-graap-wg@ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Asit Dan Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:04 AM To: Toshiyuki Nakata Cc: GRAAP-WG Subject: [graap-wg] url for the Web Services Policy WG in W3C
Toshi, As per the discussion in today's call, here is the url for the Web Services Policy Working Group Charter. http://www.w3.org/2006/04/ws-policy-charter.html
You can find the WS-Policy document by following the WS-Policy” Member Submission <http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/06/> link. Regards. Asit Dan, Ph.D. SWG SOA Design Requirements Phone: (914) 766-1767 Internet: asit@us.ibm.com ICSOC 06 PC Chair (http://www.icsoc.org)

Toshiyuki Nakata schrieb:
Hello: Asit: Thank you very much for the pointer.
I intend to attend today's teleconference, but I might fail to do so, so here are my views on PROS and CONS:
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All in all I would suggest that for this version of the spec, we should stick to the current spec to be released and consider the modifications for the next version of the specification.
Thanks Toshi for pointing to our most important task: getting version 1.0 of the spec submitted to the editor. We - and I suppose from comments a got - quite a number of projects are waiting for v1 to be implemented and to start the interoperability tests. We really must postpone additional changes to the spec to v1.x, finalise the few modifications we still have on the list and get it out then as soon as possible. Best regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Ziegler www.scai.fraunhofer.de/ziegler.html Fraunhofer-Institute for Algorithms and Scientific Computing (SCAI) Schloss Birlinghoven, D-53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany Tel: +49 2241 14 2258; Fax: +49 2241 14 42258 CoreGRID Network of Excellence www.coregrid.net Collaboration Gateway www.coregrid.net/cg Institute on Resource Management and Scheduling www.coregrid.net/irms

Hello: I've updated the comment list so that at least the document pointer points to the correct place in the new Gridforge. Unfortunately, I've not been able to find where the comments list is in the new structure. Since we've already addressed all the comments perhaps it is not really needed? Best Regards ----- Toshiyuki Nakata 中田 登志之 Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509)
participants (3)
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Asit Dan
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Toshiyuki Nakata
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Wolfgang Ziegler