August 2005 - graap-wg - lists.ogf.org

telecon on 8/17
by Jim Pruyne 29 Aug '05

29 Aug '05

Folks, We should be able to return to our usual telecon. schedule tomorrow. Times and numbers will be the same as usual: Start Time: 10:00 AM Central US 11:00 AM Eastern US 8:00 AM Pacific US 1700 Germany 1600 UK Midnight Japan Dial in numbers: 866-673-8466 or 702-477-6031 code 8578310. Last weeks minutes say we have the following open issues. I'd like to discuss these and make sure we know how they are being addressed. - Fixing the template description of Agreement Factory and PendingFactory - Adding new serices references list to WSDL and text - Fix Business Value example in the appendix - Re-integrate schemas and examples. Thanks. --- Jim

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minutes from Aug 17. telecon
by Jim Pruyne 24 Aug '05

24 Aug '05

Minutes are attached. Summary is that I should be taking my final editting pass on the document in the next couple of days, and then we are ready for final comments from the group prior to submission to GGF. We will have a call next week at the usual time. --- Jim Minutes from August 17 '05 Telecon Attendees --------- Jim Pruyne Heiko Ludwig Karl Czajkowski Christopher Dabrowski Discussion ---------- Business value examples need to be updated to newer schema Karl's JSDL updates need to be integrated **Action: Jim - Wrapper around the constraints Updated wsdl's need to be integrated back in to the appendix >From Chris: In 9.1.1.1: How do the extensions work on the offer as either critical or not critical? Two types of xsd:any one that must be considered by the responder, one that can be ignored. Most recent draft has come from Heiko just prior to the meeting Scheduling for GGF 15 - Karl probably not - Heiko unsure - Chris should be there and could possibly talk some about their simulation work.

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Fw: Call in number
by Heiko Ludwig 16 Aug '05

16 Aug '05

There seems to be a call in problem right now. Alternative call in: Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-421-0025 Toll dial-in: 1-770-615-1242 Participant passcode: 598600 Heiko ----- Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol. IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598 hludwig(a)us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160, mob. +1 646 675 8469 http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/

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WS-Agreement implementations
by Kate Keahey 12 Aug '05

12 Aug '05

All, I understand that there are quite a few WS-Agreement implmentation efforts. Is there an official page listing them all? Also, are any of them publicly available or are there plans to make them available in the future?

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Minutes of the August 10, 2005 call
by Heiko Ludwig 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Attendants: Jim Pruyne, dropping off early Karl Czajkowski Asit Dan Heiko Ludwig Agenda: 1. Adding a service references attrbute to the Agreement port To facilitate finding services relating to an agreement, we will add an optional element to the Agreement interface containing a list of references of any#other labeled with the service name to which they refer. 2. Remaining work items We want to close this version ASAP. The remaining work items are: - Fixing the template description of Agreement Factory and PendingFactory - Adding new serices references list to WSDL and text - Fix Business Value example in the appendix - Re-integrate schemas and examples. Heiko ----- Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol. IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598 hludwig(a)us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160, mob. +1 646 675 8469 http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/

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Re: Fwd: Re: [graap-wg] Comment on section 9, first paragraph,
by Christopher Dabrowski 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

OK, thanks for addressing this, Heiko. Sincerely, Chris At 05:23 PM 8/3/2005, you wrote: >>X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 >>To: Christopher Dabrowski <christopher.dabrowski(a)nist.gov> >>Cc: graap-wg(a)gridforum.org, owner-graap-wg(a)ggf.org >>Subject: Re: [graap-wg] Comment on section 9, first paragraph, >>X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.1IBM2 August 03, 2004 >>From: Heiko Ludwig <hludwig(a)us.ibm.com> >>Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 15:08:56 -0400 >>X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML604/01/M/IBM(Build >>V70_M6_06302005 Beta 4|June >> 30, 2005) at 08/03/2005 15:08:57, >> Serialize complete at 08/03/2005 15:08:57 >>X-NIST-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information >>X-MailScanner: >>X-MailScanner-From: hludwig(a)us.ibm.com >> >> >>Good point, Chris. I added a clarifying sentence to the draft explaining >>that diverging state information is to be dealt with specifially to a >>particular domain, e.g., by replication or dispute handling. >> >>Heiko >> >>----- >>Heiko Ludwig, Dr. rer. pol. >>IBM TJ Watson Research Center, PO Box 704, Yorktown, NY, 10598 >>hludwig(a)us.ibm.com, tel. +1 914 784 7160, mob. +1 646 675 8469 >>http://www.research.ibm.com/people/h/hludwig/ >> >> >> >> >>Christopher Dabrowski <christopher.dabrowski(a)nist.gov> >>Sent by: owner-graap-wg(a)ggf.org >> >>08/03/2005 12:14 PM >>To >>graap-wg(a)gridforum.org >>cc >>Subject >>[graap-wg] Comment on section 9, first paragraph, >> >> >> >> >>All, >> >>An additional comment on Section 9, first paragraph #2 >>(WORD version of document dated July 13) states: >> >>"2 Call Back. As with the simple client-server scenario, the initiator >>invokes the AgreementFactory to create a responder-side Agreement. As >>additional input to the createAgreement call, the initiator passes the >>address >>of an initiator-side Agreement representing the offer he is making. As a >>result, both parties have an Agreement representing the same accepted >>agreement relationship between them, to allow symmetric messaging for >>monitoring and management." >> >>Is it clear what is meant by "symmetric messaging for monitoring and >>management"? (Also appears in #4) >> >>Points of clarification -- does this imply that there are two copies of the >>agreement, one for the client and one for the server? If so, must >>messages be exchanged to ensure these copies are consistent? >> >>I raised this earlier and it may have been addressed. >> >>Sincerely, >>Chris Dabrowski >> >> >> >>Christopher Dabrowski >>National Institute of Standards and Technology >>100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8970 >>Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8970 >>Phone: +1 301 975-3249 >>FAX: +1 301 948-6213 >>cdabrowski(a)nist.gov > > >Christopher Dabrowski >National Institute of Standards and Technology >100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8970 >Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8970 >Phone: +1 301 975-3249 >FAX: +1 301 948-6213 >cdabrowski(a)nist.gov

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Comment on section 9, first paragraph,
by Christopher Dabrowski 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

All, An additional comment on Section 9, first paragraph #2 (WORD version of document dated July 13) states: "2 Call Back. As with the simple client-server scenario, the initiator invokes the AgreementFactory to create a responder-side Agreement. As additional input to the createAgreement call, the initiator passes the address of an initiator-side Agreement representing the offer he is making. As a result, both parties have an Agreement representing the same accepted agreement relationship between them, to allow symmetric messaging for monitoring and management." Is it clear what is meant by "symmetric messaging for monitoring and management"? (Also appears in #4) Points of clarification -- does this imply that there are two copies of the agreement, one for the client and one for the server? If so, must messages be exchanged to ensure these copies are consistent? I raised this earlier and it may have been addressed. Sincerely, Chris Dabrowski Christopher Dabrowski National Institute of Standards and Technology 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8970 Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8970 Phone: +1 301 975-3249 FAX: +1 301 948-6213 cdabrowski(a)nist.gov

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