November 2005 - graap-wg

telecon reminder 11/23
by Jim Pruyne 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

All, We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening at our new time one hour earlier for those who've recently changed from daylight savings time such as in the US. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Time US 1600 UK (?) 1700 Germany (?) midnight Japan 2200 Thailand Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. --- Jim

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Plans for GGF16
by Jim Pruyne 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

Folks, Registration for GGF16 is now open. See http://www.ggf.org/GGF16/ggf_events_ggf16.htm. This also means that the chairs need to begin to request sessions. We'd like to get a feel for how many of the group members will be there, and what topics you would like to see discussed. So if you could let at least me and Wolfgang know if you're planning to attend, that would help us know how many, and what sort of sessions to request. Thanks. --- Jim

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telecon reminder: 11/9
by Jim Pruyne 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

All, We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening at our new time one hour earlier for those who've recently changed from daylight savings time such as in the US. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Time US 1600 UK (?) 1700 Germany (?) midnight Japan 2200 Thailand Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. --- Jim

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telecon on 11/16
by Jim Pruyne 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

All, We will have a telecon. on Wed. morning/evening at our new time. We will want to discuss plans for GGF16 (already!), and update on the status of various comments from public comment. We can also review the updates Toshi's been making. Dial-in numbers will be the same. The time is: 9:00AM Central Time US (GMT-0600, I think) which should be: 10:00AM Eastern Time US 1500 UK 1600 Germany midnight Japan Phone Number: 866-673-8466 in the US. 702-477-6031 for those outside the US. Conference code #8578310. --- Jim

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[ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Nov. 9th call (CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP joint call)
by Hiro Kishimoto 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

Hi all, Apologies for cross-posting *ATTENTION* From Oct. 31 and onward telecon starts one hour earlier 5pm EST = 4pm CST = 2pm PST = 10pm UK = 7am JST OGSA-WG revised charter draft has been accepted by GFSG with no change. Congratulations! https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/OGSA-WG-Charter-2005/… The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Nov. 9th Wednesday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 1109 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Nov. 7th) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20051107/en/1 Since SC05 is next week, can we have a quorum next week? Agenda bashing 2) CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP joint EMS discussion (60 min) > From F2F minutes; > - Action: Agreed on two-pronged approach for CDDLM(+ACS) on one > side and EMS on the other to describe their approaches in > more detail and to then unify those approaches. (Note > these are 3 separate actions.) > - Action(1): CDDLM team volunteered to look into two issues that > were identified as requirements and report back in an > OGSA call > 1. Where to draw the line in the (CDL) provisioning tree > (see above) > 2. How to provide the cost of configuration Dejan already sent out their discussion summary to the list; http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2005/10/msg00026.html OGSA-WG has already reviewed their summary (see Nov. 7 minutes) and will give these feedbacks to them. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20051107/en/1 > - Action (2): Andrew provide one paragraph describing his > expectations from the deployment component. (done) > Using this paragraph, CDDLM-WG provides a feedback on > how they match his expectations. Andrew's description; http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2005/11/msg00013.html > Actions(3): > - RSS-WG to produce abstract interface (and responsibilities) of EPS > and CSG. > - Clarify responsibilities/functionality of JM > - Andreas to send detailed EMS draft (pre OGSA 1.0) document to > Steven N. EMS team is working on "composition roadmap" https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/proposed-ems-roadmap/ > Action(4): Set up a team to explore WS_Agreements issues more, > especially relating to allocation and QoS assurance. And > come back to OGSA-WG on how to use WS-Agreement (possibly > evolved) with EMS. Clarify > - How WS-Agreement possibly needs to change to fit in OGSA > EMS > - Set the first review after 30 days; check what can be > done. > - Volunteers: Steven Newhouse (to lead), Dave Berry, Chris > Smith, (Jim Pruyne; not present >GRAAP-WG to confirm) 3) OGSA naming policy discussion (30 min) Tom will have the written proposal (agreed on the previous call) 4) Information model discussion (20 min) > Action: Andrew to review and point out what is needed for the > BES container > - Goal: A preliminary set of attributes that are > needed for the BES container 5) Common UML tool review (if time permit) > - Mike Behrens has some experience with a number of the listed > tools. He volunteered to check out the rest and give an > evaluation next week > - export/import as one required feature > > - One of the IBM participants will follow up and confirm the > procedures needed and that everyone can use the RSM tool, if the > group decides to go with it. 6) OGSA workshop at Israel Grid Alliance (if time permit) Steve Crumb ask us to send a rep to Tel Aviv before or after GGF16. > In my continued efforts to get an OGSA expert to Israel to discuss > the architecture to a primarily technical audience, Avner and I have > settled on the proposal of having an OGSA half-day workshop > immediately after (or before) the Athens event. This would allow for > someone to be roughly in the same geographic area making a quick, > one-day hop to Tel Aviv much more doable. 7) Wrap up AOB <NEXT CALL> Nov. 14 (Mon) OGSA-AuthZ joint call Basic Security Profile document review, Architecture & Glossary 1.5 Nov. 16 (Wed) EMS architecture, information model & CIM profile Nov. 21 (Mon) Architecture & Glossary 1.5 Profile Definition Update Nov. 23 (Wed) NO call (Thanksgiving) Telecon schedule: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/ -- Hiro Kishimoto

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[Fwd: [ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Nov. 7th call]
by Toshiyuki Nakata 07 Nov '05

07 Nov '05

Hi: This is just a reminder that OGSA-EMS people expect to have a Joint CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP Meeting on Nov. 9th. (If it is on the same time as on the Nov. 2nd call, then the time should be..) (Begin quote from Hiro's email) Wednesday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). *ATTENTION* From Oct. 31 and onward telecon starts one hour earlier 5pm EST = 4pm CST = 2pm PST = 10pm UK = 7am JST Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 (# TN Seems to be different from the Dialin numbers for 7th Nov. call #Please cf. #https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/ #) Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net (End quote) They've also made a composition roadmap "EMS team is working on "composition roadmap" https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/proposed-ems-roadmap/ Unfortunately, WS-agreement is not mentioned (yet).. Best Regards Toshi -------- Original Message -------- Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Nov. 7th Monday from 4pm to 6pm (CST). *ATTENTION* From Oct. 31 and onward telecon starts one hour earlier 5pm EST = 4pm CST = 2pm PST = 10pm UK = 7am JST The dial-in number for Monday; Free: +1-866-639-4741 Toll: +1-574-935-6703 PIN: 8980700 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 1107 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (Nov. 2nd) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20051102/en/1 Agenda bashing 2) CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP joint call preparation (10 min) This Wednesday is a joint call with CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP in order to review progress after GGF15. EMS team needs to get ready for it. > From F2F minutes; > - Action: Agreed on two-pronged approach for CDDLM(+ACS) on one > side and EMS on the other to describe their approaches in > more detail and to then unify those approaches. (Note > these are 3 separate actions.) > - Action(1): CDDLM team volunteered to look into two issues that were > identified as requirements and report back in an OGSA call > 1. Where to draw the line in the (CDL) provisioning tree > (see above) > 2. How to provide the cost of configuration Dejan already sent out their discussion summary to the list; http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2005/10/msg00026.html > Actions(2): > - RSS-WG to produce abstract interface (and responsibilities) of EPS > and CSG. > - Clarify responsibilites/functionality of JM > - Andreas to send detailed EMS draft (pre OGSA 1.0) document to > Steven N. EMS team is working on "composition roadmap" https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/proposed-ems-roadmap/ > Action(3): Set up a team to explore WS_Agreements issues more, > especially relating to allocation and QoS assurance. And > come back to OGSA-WG on how to use WS-Agreement (possibly > evolved) with EMS. Clarify > - How WS-Agreement possibly needs to change to fit in OGSA > EMS > - Set the first review after 30 days; check what can be > done. > - Volunteers: Steven Newhouse (to lead), Dave Berry, Chris > Smith, (Jim Pruyne; not present >GRAAP-WG to confirm) 3) Common UML tool (20 min) > - Mike Behrens has some experience with a number of the listed > tools. He volunteered to check out the rest and give an > evaluation next week > - export/import as one required feature > > - One of the IBM participants will follow up and confirm the > procedures needed and that everyone can use the RSM tool, if the > group decides to go with it. 4) Basic Security Profile document review (60 min) Takuya will post revised draft before the call. 5) Glossary 1.5 discussion (20 min) Jem will lead several open issues in Glossary 1.5. 6) Wrap up (10 min) AOB <NEXT CALL> Nov. 9 (Wed) EMS architecture, CDDLM/ACS/GRAAP joint call information model & CIM profile Nov. 14 (Mon) OGSA-AuthZ joint call Basic Security Profile document final review, Architecture & Glossary 1.5 Nov. 16 (Wed) EMS architecture, information model & CIM profile Telecon schedule: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule/ -- Hiro Kishimoto -- Toshiyuki Nakata ????? Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509)

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No telecon on 11/2
by Jim Pruyne 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

All, I will be out of the office, so there will be no telecon on 11/2. We can resume on 11/9 with our discussion of the comments thus far. There have been no new comments made since last week. --- Jim

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