GLUE WG teleconference, Tuesday, March 10, 2015
Greetings GLUE WG, Our next GLUE WG teleconference will be: : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 : 15:30-17:00 Central Europe, 9:30-11:00 AM US Central NOTE: Due to the US Daylight Savings time change this weekend, this meeting will be at the usual time in Europe BUT one hour later than usual in the US. We will try this teleconference and screen sharing tool: : Web: https://meet.illinois.edu/herrio/V57YV10Q : --> Cancel login dialog, click guest "Sign in here instead", enter name, click "Join the meeting" : Phone: 1-888-983-3631, International 1-217-332-6338 or 1-312-994-8410 : Conference ID: 6759150 As a fall back we also have: : Web: https://webconf.vc.dfn.de/ogf-glue-wg/ (Adobe Connect) : Login as Guest using your real name Meeting materials folder: : http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6588 Proposed agenda with previous meeting notes: 1) LDAP rendering: public comment is closed, discuss next steps Previous:
Action: Florido will send LDAP schema to merge into document, recommend publish path Action: JP/Shiraz will merge Florido's 9/2/2014 comments, LDAP document and release for public comment Agreed that we would publish the LDAP compiled schema at a specific URL Action: JP to confirm schemas.ogf.org versus www.ogf.org/schemas/ (prefer schemas.ogf.org) CONFIRMED that we can use schema.ogf.org/ to publish LDAP and JSON schema We do not think there will be technical conflicts for XML, LDAP, and JSON schemas co-existing under the same URL namespace. http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.84.pdf defines standard XML namespace. OGF doesn't have equivalent standards for LDAP or JSON. Schema will be published as "*.schema.ldap" Shiraz/JP review our main wiki page and make sure there are links to all the published schemas.
2) Enumerations: approve enumerations process document Previous:
Florido posted script to merge, it's on Github. David volunteers to help manage enumerations, including add missing enumerations. We need define the enumerations described in GFD.147. ACTION: Warren will post proposed job state enumerations from XSEDE ACTION: David/Warren/Shiraz will explore Git tools/ pull requests for maintaining enumerations and propose changed enumeration management process documentation
3) Cloud Extensions: Do we have champions to move forward with GLUE 2.1? Champions: Francisco Brasileiro and Abmar Barros from Federal University of Campina Grande - www.ufcg.edu.br Peter Solagna and anyone else from EGI? Previous:
Our next meeting on November 25 will focus on GLUE 2.1 Cloud changes We discussed extensively what we mean by compatibility between GLUE 2.0 and 2.1. No conclusion reached and needs to be further discussed. We didn't have time to discuss Paul's proposal to add a View attribute in 2.1 David will explore pricing policies in the context of GLUE2 and OGF SLA (WS-Agreement, GRAP) working group Terminology: Call this GLUE 2.1 specification, 100% compatible with 2.0 with additional optional cloud extensions
4) JSON: continue rendering discussions, discuss next steps. Previous:
JSON schema is ready for WG review before release for public comment. ACTION: Warren will post schema pointer to the working group this week, we will vote on 25th to release for public comment. Moved to release for public comment after correcting schema reference URL. XSEDE is implementing JSON GLUE2 David funding supports his work on XML and JSON UNICORE implementing REST services and may implement JSON if their is a need Shiraz/JP will review wiki page for tools and/or deployments
5) Future meetings Should we meet at OGF44 co-located with the EGI Conference 2015 May 18-22, 2015, in Lisbon, Portugal? Regards, JP and Shiraz
Hi all, My apologies - I have a meeting clash but if this finishes early I'll join when I can. David
-----Original Message----- From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of JP Navarro Sent: 06 March 2015 17:03 To: OGF GLUE Working Group Subject: [glue-wg] GLUE WG teleconference, Tuesday, March 10, 2015
Greetings GLUE WG,
Our next GLUE WG teleconference will be: : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 : 15:30-17:00 Central Europe, 9:30-11:00 AM US Central
NOTE: Due to the US Daylight Savings time change this weekend, this meeting will be at the usual time in Europe BUT one hour later than usual in the US.
We will try this teleconference and screen sharing tool: : Web: https://meet.illinois.edu/herrio/V57YV10Q : --> Cancel login dialog, click guest "Sign in here instead", enter name, click "Join the meeting" : Phone: 1-888-983-3631, International 1-217-332-6338 or 1-312-994-8410 : Conference ID: 6759150
As a fall back we also have: : Web: https://webconf.vc.dfn.de/ogf-glue-wg/ (Adobe Connect) : Login as Guest using your real name
Meeting materials folder: : http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6588
Proposed agenda with previous meeting notes:
Action: Florido will send LDAP schema to merge into document, recommend publish path Action: JP/Shiraz will merge Florido's 9/2/2014 comments, LDAP document and release for public comment Agreed that we would publish the LDAP compiled schema at a specific URL Action: JP to confirm schemas.ogf.org versus www.ogf.org/schemas/ (prefer schemas.ogf.org) CONFIRMED that we can use schema.ogf.org/ to publish LDAP and JSON schema We do not think there will be technical conflicts for XML, LDAP, and JSON schemas co-existing under the same URL namespace. http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.84.pdf defines standard XML namespace. OGF doesn't have equivalent standards for LDAP or JSON. Schema will be published as "*.schema.ldap" Shiraz/JP review our main wiki page and make sure there are links to all the
1) LDAP rendering: public comment is closed, discuss next steps Previous: published schemas.
2) Enumerations: approve enumerations process document Previous:
Florido posted script to merge, it's on Github. David volunteers to help manage enumerations, including add missing enumerations. We need define the enumerations described in GFD.147. ACTION: Warren will post proposed job state enumerations from XSEDE ACTION: David/Warren/Shiraz will explore Git tools/ pull requests for maintaining enumerations and propose changed enumeration management process documentation
3) Cloud Extensions: Do we have champions to move forward with GLUE 2.1? Champions: Francisco Brasileiro and Abmar Barros from Federal University of Campina Grande - www.ufcg.edu.br Peter Solagna and anyone else from EGI? Previous:
Our next meeting on November 25 will focus on GLUE 2.1 Cloud changes We discussed extensively what we mean by compatibility between GLUE 2.0 and 2.1. No conclusion reached and needs to be further discussed. We didn't have time to discuss Paul's proposal to add a View attribute in 2.1 David will explore pricing policies in the context of GLUE2 and OGF SLA (WS-Agreement, GRAP) working group Terminology: Call this GLUE 2.1 specification, 100% compatible with 2.0 with additional optional cloud extensions
4) JSON: continue rendering discussions, discuss next steps. Previous:
JSON schema is ready for WG review before release for public comment. ACTION: Warren will post schema pointer to the working group this week, we will vote on 25th to release for public comment. Moved to release for public comment after correcting schema reference URL. XSEDE is implementing JSON GLUE2 David funding supports his work on XML and JSON UNICORE implementing REST services and may implement JSON if their is a need Shiraz/JP will review wiki page for tools and/or deployments
5) Future meetings Should we meet at OGF44 co-located with the EGI Conference 2015 May 18-22, 2015, in Lisbon, Portugal?
Regards,
JP and Shiraz _______________________________________________ glue-wg mailing list glue-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg
What we've moving to in XSEDE is to use this set of states for computing activities: ipf:pending ipf:held ipf:starting ipf:running ipf:suspended ipf:terminating ipf:terminated ipf:finishing ipf:finished ipf:failed ipf:unknown (IPF is the name of the information gathering tool we're using). We're generating Computing Activities for jobs managed by cluster schedulers. In addition, we're also including the native state in the State list of each Computing Activity in the <scheduler>:<state> format. The <scheduler> is all lower case such as "htcondor", "lsf", "moab", "pbs", "sge", or "slurm". Warren ________________________________________ From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org <glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org> on behalf of JP Navarro <navarro@mcs.anl.gov> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 11:03 AM To: OGF GLUE Working Group Subject: [glue-wg] GLUE WG teleconference, Tuesday, March 10, 2015 Greetings GLUE WG, Our next GLUE WG teleconference will be: : Tuesday, March 10, 2015 : 15:30-17:00 Central Europe, 9:30-11:00 AM US Central NOTE: Due to the US Daylight Savings time change this weekend, this meeting will be at the usual time in Europe BUT one hour later than usual in the US. We will try this teleconference and screen sharing tool: : Web: https://meet.illinois.edu/herrio/V57YV10Q : --> Cancel login dialog, click guest "Sign in here instead", enter name, click "Join the meeting" : Phone: 1-888-983-3631, International 1-217-332-6338 or 1-312-994-8410 : Conference ID: 6759150 As a fall back we also have: : Web: https://webconf.vc.dfn.de/ogf-glue-wg/ (Adobe Connect) : Login as Guest using your real name Meeting materials folder: : http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6588 Proposed agenda with previous meeting notes: 1) LDAP rendering: public comment is closed, discuss next steps Previous:
Action: Florido will send LDAP schema to merge into document, recommend publish path Action: JP/Shiraz will merge Florido's 9/2/2014 comments, LDAP document and release for public comment Agreed that we would publish the LDAP compiled schema at a specific URL Action: JP to confirm schemas.ogf.org versus www.ogf.org/schemas/ (prefer schemas.ogf.org) CONFIRMED that we can use schema.ogf.org/ to publish LDAP and JSON schema We do not think there will be technical conflicts for XML, LDAP, and JSON schemas co-existing under the same URL namespace. http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.84.pdf defines standard XML namespace. OGF doesn't have equivalent standards for LDAP or JSON. Schema will be published as "*.schema.ldap" Shiraz/JP review our main wiki page and make sure there are links to all the published schemas.
2) Enumerations: approve enumerations process document Previous:
Florido posted script to merge, it's on Github. David volunteers to help manage enumerations, including add missing enumerations. We need define the enumerations described in GFD.147. ACTION: Warren will post proposed job state enumerations from XSEDE ACTION: David/Warren/Shiraz will explore Git tools/ pull requests for maintaining enumerations and propose changed enumeration management process documentation
3) Cloud Extensions: Do we have champions to move forward with GLUE 2.1? Champions: Francisco Brasileiro and Abmar Barros from Federal University of Campina Grande - www.ufcg.edu.br Peter Solagna and anyone else from EGI? Previous:
Our next meeting on November 25 will focus on GLUE 2.1 Cloud changes We discussed extensively what we mean by compatibility between GLUE 2.0 and 2.1. No conclusion reached and needs to be further discussed. We didn't have time to discuss Paul's proposal to add a View attribute in 2.1 David will explore pricing policies in the context of GLUE2 and OGF SLA (WS-Agreement, GRAP) working group Terminology: Call this GLUE 2.1 specification, 100% compatible with 2.0 with additional optional cloud extensions
4) JSON: continue rendering discussions, discuss next steps. Previous:
JSON schema is ready for WG review before release for public comment. ACTION: Warren will post schema pointer to the working group this week, we will vote on 25th to release for public comment. Moved to release for public comment after correcting schema reference URL. XSEDE is implementing JSON GLUE2 David funding supports his work on XML and JSON UNICORE implementing REST services and may implement JSON if their is a need Shiraz/JP will review wiki page for tools and/or deployments
5) Future meetings Should we meet at OGF44 co-located with the EGI Conference 2015 May 18-22, 2015, in Lisbon, Portugal? Regards, JP and Shiraz _______________________________________________ glue-wg mailing list glue-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg
Present: Florido, Stephen, Shiraz, Warren, JP Meeting notes: 1) LDAP rendering: public comment is closed, discuss next steps
Previous:
Action: Florido will send LDAP schema to merge into document, recommend publish path Action: JP/Shiraz will merge Florido's 9/2/2014 comments, LDAP document and release for public comment Agreed that we would publish the LDAP compiled schema at a specific URL Action: JP to confirm schemas.ogf.org versus www.ogf.org/schemas/ (prefer schemas.ogf.org) CONFIRMED that we can use schema.ogf.org/ to publish LDAP and JSON schema We do not think there will be technical conflicts for XML, LDAP, and JSON schemas co-existing under the same URL namespace. http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.84.pdf defines standard XML namespace. OGF doesn't have equivalent standards for LDAP or JSON. Schema will be published as "*.schema.ldap" Shiraz/JP review our main wiki page and make sure there are links to all the published schemas.
Agreed on the following public schema URL: https://schemas.ogf.org/glue/2014/07/GLUE20.schema.ldap Action (JP): Request GFD number <NNN> So that we now the final spec url: http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.<NNN>.pdf Action (JP/Florido): Add spec URL to schema and schema URL to spec; add final schema to spec AGREED: Proceed to Final Review with the above changes
2) Enumerations: approve enumerations process document Previous:
Florido posted script to merge, it's on Github. David volunteers to help manage enumerations, including add missing enumerations. We need define the enumerations described in GFD.147. ACTION: Warren will post proposed job state enumerations from XSEDE ACTION: David/Warren/Shiraz will explore Git tools/ pull requests for maintaining enumerations and propose changed enumeration management process documentation
Action (Shiraz): Update enumeration management document with Git process AGREED: Group approves promoting InterfaceName_t from draft to official. Action (Florido): Update enumerations as discussed on the call and check-in to Git as official. Action (Florido): Discuss clashing names and how to resolve with David and post what they decide to the list.
3) Cloud Extensions: Do we have champions to move forward with GLUE 2.1? Champions: Francisco Brasileiro and Abmar Barros from Federal University of Campina Grande - www.ufcg.edu.br Peter Solagna and anyone else from EGI? Previous:
Our next meeting on November 25 will focus on GLUE 2.1 Cloud changes We discussed extensively what we mean by compatibility between GLUE 2.0 and 2.1. No conclusion reached and needs to be further discussed. We didn't have time to discuss Paul's proposal to add a View attribute in 2.1 David will explore pricing policies in the context of GLUE2 and OGF SLA (WS-Agreement, GRAP) working group Terminology: Call this GLUE 2.1 specification, 100% compatible with 2.0 with additional optional cloud extensions
Action (JP/Shiraz): Ask Peter if EGI is ready to resume the lead on GLUE 2.1 If EGI is not ready we will ask Francisco and Abmar if they are willing to take the lead with support the rest of the WG.
4) JSON: continue rendering discussions, discuss next steps. Previous:
JSON schema is ready for WG review before release for public comment. ACTION: Warren will post schema pointer to the working group this week, we will vote on 25th to release for public comment. Moved to release for public comment after correcting schema reference URL. XSEDE is implementing JSON GLUE2 David funding supports his work on XML and JSON UNICORE implementing REST services and may implement JSON if their is a need Shiraz/JP will review wiki page for tools and/or deployments
AGREED: Release it for public comment. Action (JP/Shiraz): Submit it for public comment. Warren shared recent JSON rendering efforts. Shared bindings he developed that should be very useful to developers. Shiraz volunteered to upgrade Warren's bindings to Maven.
5) Future meetings Should we meet at OGF44 co-located with the EGI Conference 2015 May 18-22, 2015, in Lisbon, Portugal?
Action (JP): If Peter and EGI are ready to take the lead ask if a face-to-face meeting at OGF44 will be useful. Otherwise, no face-to-face meeting at OGF44. We agreed that our next meeting would be May 12. Regards, JP and Shiraz
On 2015-03-10 23:59, JP Navarro wrote:
Present: Florido, Stephen, Shiraz, Warren, JP
Meeting notes:
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2) Enumerations: approve enumerations process document [...] AGREED: Group approves promoting InterfaceName_t from draft to official. Action (Florido): Update enumerations as discussed on the call and check-in to Git as official.
All done, see https://github.com/OGF-GLUE/Enumerations/blob/master/InterfaceName_t.csv
Action (Florido): Discuss clashing names and how to resolve with David and post what they decide to the list.
Still to be done. hopefully before the next meeting. Cheers, Florido -- ================================================== Florido Paganelli ARC Middleware Developer - NorduGrid Collaboration System Administrator Lund University Department of Physics Division of Particle Physics BOX118 221 00 Lund Office Location: Fysikum, Hus B, Rum B313 Office Tel: 046-2220272 Email: florido.paganelli@REMOVE_THIShep.lu.se Homepage: http://www.hep.lu.se/staff/paganelli ==================================================
On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:59 PM, JP Navarro <navarro@mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
Agreed on the following public schema URL: https://schemas.ogf.org/glue/2014/07/GLUE20.schema.ldap Action (JP): Request GFD number <NNN> So that we now the final spec url: http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.<NNN>.pdf Action (JP/Florido): Add spec URL to schema and schema URL to spec; add final schema to spec AGREED: Proceed to Final Review with the above changes
We've heard from the OGF editors. Our LDAP specification (GFD-RP.218) should get published at: https://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.218.pdf As discussed, the schema will be at (note http rather than https): http://schemas.ogf.org/glue/2014/07/GLUE20.schema.ldap I've attached a slightly updated schema and rendering doc. FLORIDO: Could you please take care of the FIXES in the *ldap.schema and send back your final version? I can take care of final *.doc changes (replace appending schema) and submit it for final review. Thanks, JP
Hi, Warren shared recent JSON rendering efforts. Shared bindings he developed that should be very useful to developers. Shiraz volunteered to upgrade Warren's bindings to Maven. Done. An example maven project file has been created and can be downloaded from [1]. It uses jsonschema2pojo maven plugin, which takes json schemas as an input and generates Java sources in the configured output folder. Cheers, Shiraz [1] https://github.com/OGF-GLUE/JSON/blob/master/examples/java/pom.xml -- Ahmed Shiraz Memon Federated Systems and Data Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Phone: +49 2461 61 6899 Fax: +49 2461 61 6656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH 52425 Juelich Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Wolfgang Marquardt (Vorsitzender), Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt, Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
participants (5)
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david.meredith＠stfc.ac.uk -
Florido Paganelli -
JP Navarro -
Shiraz Memon -
Warren Smith