FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering
Hi all, Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>' (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido). Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call) Cheers, David From: Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) Sent: 19 September 2013 10:42 To: glue-wg@ogf.org WG Subject: Change Doc Root element name hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering. What do you think? David http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29 -------------------------------------------------------------- David Meredith STFC eScience Centre Daresbury Laboratory (A32) Warrington, Cheshire WA4 4AD email: david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk tel: +44 (0)1925 603762 -- Scanned by iCritical.
Hi David, As I said in my comment, it doesn't change much the amount of conversion to do in the two schemas, and is as "misleading" as Entities (Glue is not GLUE2). It was not really a "no" but more like a "we don't gain much" My intention was not to block the process but to foster discussion. Since there was no discussion, and the conversion effort LDAP to XML will be the same, please proceed with the change, so we move forward. Cheers, Florido On 2013-10-09 10:53, david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
Hi all,
Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from ‘<Entities>’ to ‘<Glue>’ (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido).
Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call)
Cheers,
David
*From:*Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) *Sent:* 19 September 2013 10:42 *To:* glue-wg@ogf.org WG *Subject:* Change Doc Root element name
hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering.
What do you think?
David
http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29
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Hi David, For consistency and readability's sake, I would vote for "Glue" as the main root element. This can be seen as one of the changes needed by the potential glue compliant information system/application(s) that aims to adopt the latest xml flat rendering. Thus, better to change it now than later. With that, however, one more proponent has been added :) Has any deadline been fixed to reach the final agreement on this issue? Best regards, Shiraz On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote: Hi all, Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from ‘<Entities>’ to ‘<Glue>’ (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido). Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call) Cheers, David From: Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) Sent: 19 September 2013 10:42 To: glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> WG Subject: Change Doc Root element name hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering. What do you think? David http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29 -------------------------------------------------------------- David Meredith STFC eScience Centre Daresbury Laboratory (A32) Warrington, Cheshire WA4 4AD email: david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk> tel: +44 (0)1925 603762<tel:%2B44%20%280%291925%20603762> -- Scanned by iCritical. _______________________________________________ glue-wg mailing list glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg -- Ahmed Shiraz Memon Federated Systems and Data Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Phone: +49 2461 61 6899 Fax: +49 2461 61 6656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH 52425 Juelich Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt, Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Shiraz, No deadline has been set yet, but I think we should do so - e.g. by next working group meeting on the 22nd Oct. @Florido - thanks for the clarification. David From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Shiraz Memon Sent: 09 October 2013 10:27 To: OGF GLUE WG Subject: Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering Hi David, For consistency and readability's sake, I would vote for "Glue" as the main root element. This can be seen as one of the changes needed by the potential glue compliant information system/application(s) that aims to adopt the latest xml flat rendering. Thus, better to change it now than later. With that, however, one more proponent has been added :) Has any deadline been fixed to reach the final agreement on this issue? Best regards, Shiraz On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote: Hi all, Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>' (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido). Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call) Cheers, David From: Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) Sent: 19 September 2013 10:42 To: glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> WG Subject: Change Doc Root element name hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering. What do you think? David http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29 -------------------------------------------------------------- David Meredith STFC eScience Centre Daresbury Laboratory (A32) Warrington, Cheshire WA4 4AD email: david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk> tel: +44 (0)1925 603762<tel:%2B44%20%280%291925%20603762> -- Scanned by iCritical. _______________________________________________ glue-wg mailing list glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg -- Ahmed Shiraz Memon Federated Systems and Data Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Phone: +49 2461 61 6899 Fax: +49 2461 61 6656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH 52425 Juelich Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt, Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Scanned by iCritical.
The GFD.147 document uses 'GLUE' instead of 'Glue'. The XML element names follow the CamelCase of the attribute names in GFD.147, so you could argue that we should follow the capitalization of glue, also. And as Florido mentions, we could use 'GLUE2' to be more precise. I think 'GLUE2' would be my favorite of those three options (since that is how I think of our effort). Using something more descriptive than 'Entities' as the root element makes sense to me. Warren From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Shiraz Memon Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:27 AM To: OGF GLUE WG Subject: Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering Hi David, For consistency and readability's sake, I would vote for "Glue" as the main root element. This can be seen as one of the changes needed by the potential glue compliant information system/application(s) that aims to adopt the latest xml flat rendering. Thus, better to change it now than later. With that, however, one more proponent has been added :) Has any deadline been fixed to reach the final agreement on this issue? Best regards, Shiraz On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote: Hi all, Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>' (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido). Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call) Cheers, David From: Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) Sent: 19 September 2013 10:42 To: glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> WG Subject: Change Doc Root element name hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering. What do you think? David http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29 -------------------------------------------------------------- David Meredith STFC eScience Centre Daresbury Laboratory (A32) Warrington, Cheshire WA4 4AD email: david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk> tel: +44 (0)1925 603762<tel:%2B44%20%280%291925%20603762> -- Scanned by iCritical. _______________________________________________ glue-wg mailing list glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg -- Ahmed Shiraz Memon Federated Systems and Data Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Phone: +49 2461 61 6899 Fax: +49 2461 61 6656 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH 52425 Juelich Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt, Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi, I tend to agree that "Glue2" or "GLUE2" is a more consistent root element name than the other two. Regardless of being (slightly) descriptive, the name also reflects the current specification version. In spite of the fact that the "Glue" (as a root element) is being used within the LDAP rendering, we should not carry along with its legacies while modifying other spec. renderings. Hope it won't be unfair to change my vote (certainly for the last time) for "GLUE2" :) If there are no real objections, can we close the issue and proceed with the publication process. Best regards, Shiraz On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Warren Smith <wsmith@tacc.utexas.edu> wrote:
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The GFD.147 document uses ‘GLUE’ instead of ‘Glue’. The XML element names follow the CamelCase of the attribute names in GFD.147, so you could argue that we should follow the capitalization of glue, also.****
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And as Florido mentions, we could use ‘GLUE2’ to be more precise.****
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I think ‘GLUE2’ would be my favorite of those three options (since that is how I think of our effort). Using something more descriptive than ‘Entities’ as the root element makes sense to me.****
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*From:* glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org] *On Behalf Of *Shiraz Memon *Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:27 AM *To:* OGF GLUE WG *Subject:* Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering****
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Hi David,****
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For consistency and readability's sake, I would vote for "Glue" as the main root element. This can be seen as one of the changes needed by the potential glue compliant information system/application(s) that aims to adopt the latest xml flat rendering. Thus, better to change it now than later. ****
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With that, however, one more proponent has been added :)****
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Has any deadline been fixed to reach the final agreement on this issue?*** *
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Best regards,****
Shiraz****
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On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:****
Hi all, ****
Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from ‘<Entities>’ to ‘<Glue>’ (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido). ****
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Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call)****
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Cheers, ****
David ****
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*From:* Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) *Sent:* 19 September 2013 10:42 *To:* glue-wg@ogf.org WG *Subject:* Change Doc Root element name****
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hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering. ****
What do you think?****
David****
http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29****
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Hi, I have replaced the root element "Entities" with "GLUE2" in the xml rendering document[1]. The changes in the document have been tracked, so will be finalized once approved within the wg. Should you find any errors/typos, please let me or JP know. Best regards, Shiraz and JP [1] http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13146?download= On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Shiraz Memon <a.memon@fz-juelich.de> wrote:
Hi,
I tend to agree that "Glue2" or "GLUE2" is a more consistent root element name than the other two. Regardless of being (slightly) descriptive, the name also reflects the current specification version.
In spite of the fact that the "Glue" (as a root element) is being used within the LDAP rendering, we should not carry along with its legacies while modifying other spec. renderings.
Hope it won't be unfair to change my vote (certainly for the last time) for "GLUE2" :)
If there are no real objections, can we close the issue and proceed with the publication process.
Best regards, Shiraz
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Warren Smith <wsmith@tacc.utexas.edu>wrote:
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The GFD.147 document uses ‘GLUE’ instead of ‘Glue’. The XML element names follow the CamelCase of the attribute names in GFD.147, so you could argue that we should follow the capitalization of glue, also.****
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And as Florido mentions, we could use ‘GLUE2’ to be more precise.****
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I think ‘GLUE2’ would be my favorite of those three options (since that is how I think of our effort). Using something more descriptive than ‘Entities’ as the root element makes sense to me.****
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Warren****
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*From:* glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org] *On Behalf Of *Shiraz Memon *Sent:* Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:27 AM *To:* OGF GLUE WG *Subject:* Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering****
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Hi David,****
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For consistency and readability's sake, I would vote for "Glue" as the main root element. This can be seen as one of the changes needed by the potential glue compliant information system/application(s) that aims to adopt the latest xml flat rendering. Thus, better to change it now than later. ****
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With that, however, one more proponent has been added :)****
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Has any deadline been fixed to reach the final agreement on this issue?** **
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Best regards,****
Shiraz****
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On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:****
Hi all, ****
Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from ‘<Entities>’ to ‘<Glue>’ (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido). ****
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Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call)****
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Cheers, ****
David ****
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*From:* Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) *Sent:* 19 September 2013 10:42 *To:* glue-wg@ogf.org WG *Subject:* Change Doc Root element name****
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hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering. ****
What do you think?****
David****
http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29****
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email: david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk tel: +44 (0)1925 603762****
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Phone: +49 2461 61 6899 Fax: +49 2461 61 6656****
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-- Ahmed Shiraz Memon Federated Systems and Data Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Phone: +49 2461 61 6899 Fax: +49 2461 61 6656
hi Shiraz, I was going to mention this quickly at tomorrows WG meeting in the AOB. I prefer GLUE not GLUE2. I think versioning info should be restricted to the XSD namespace and not used to define element names. For example, suppose in the future we introduce some extensions or new elements and call this 'GLUE2.1' or 'GLUE2.2' etc, existing XPath expressions that define the root element name would need to be re-written, e.g. '/GLUE2/ComputingService/ID' I've also made a few grammar changes to my local version and was aiming to upload this and submit for final call after the wg meeting. thanks david -------------------------------------------------------------- David Meredith STFC eScience Centre Daresbury Laboratory (A32) Warrington, Cheshire WA4 4AD email: david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk tel: +44 (0)1925 603762 ________________________________ From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org [glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org] on behalf of Shiraz Memon [a.memon@fz-juelich.de] Sent: 21 October 2013 14:16 To: OGF GLUE WG Subject: Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering Hi, I have replaced the root element "Entities" with "GLUE2" in the xml rendering document[1]. The changes in the document have been tracked, so will be finalized once approved within the wg. Should you find any errors/typos, please let me or JP know. Best regards, Shiraz and JP [1] http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13146?download= On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Shiraz Memon <a.memon@fz-juelich.de<mailto:a.memon@fz-juelich.de>> wrote: Hi, I tend to agree that "Glue2" or "GLUE2" is a more consistent root element name than the other two. Regardless of being (slightly) descriptive, the name also reflects the current specification version. In spite of the fact that the "Glue" (as a root element) is being used within the LDAP rendering, we should not carry along with its legacies while modifying other spec. renderings. Hope it won't be unfair to change my vote (certainly for the last time) for "GLUE2" :) If there are no real objections, can we close the issue and proceed with the publication process. Best regards, Shiraz On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Warren Smith <wsmith@tacc.utexas.edu<mailto:wsmith@tacc.utexas.edu>> wrote: The GFD.147 document uses ‘GLUE’ instead of ‘Glue’. The XML element names follow the CamelCase of the attribute names in GFD.147, so you could argue that we should follow the capitalization of glue, also. And as Florido mentions, we could use ‘GLUE2’ to be more precise. I think ‘GLUE2’ would be my favorite of those three options (since that is how I think of our effort). Using something more descriptive than ‘Entities’ as the root element makes sense to me. Warren From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org> [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org>] On Behalf Of Shiraz Memon Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:27 AM To: OGF GLUE WG Subject: Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering Hi David, For consistency and readability's sake, I would vote for "Glue" as the main root element. This can be seen as one of the changes needed by the potential glue compliant information system/application(s) that aims to adopt the latest xml flat rendering. Thus, better to change it now than later. With that, however, one more proponent has been added :) Has any deadline been fixed to reach the final agreement on this issue? Best regards, Shiraz On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote: Hi all, Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from ‘<Entities>’ to ‘<Glue>’ (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido). Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call) Cheers, David From: Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) Sent: 19 September 2013 10:42 To: glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> WG Subject: Change Doc Root element name hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering. What do you think? David http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29 -------------------------------------------------------------- David Meredith STFC eScience Centre Daresbury Laboratory (A32) Warrington, Cheshire WA4 4AD email: david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk> tel: +44 (0)1925 603762<tel:%2B44%20%280%291925%20603762> -- Scanned by iCritical. _______________________________________________ glue-wg mailing list glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/glue-wg -- Ahmed Shiraz Memon Federated Systems and Data Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Phone: +49 2461 61 6899<tel:%2B49%202461%2061%206899> Fax: +49 2461 61 6656<tel:%2B49%202461%2061%206656> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH 52425 Juelich Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt, Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Ahmed Shiraz Memon Federated Systems and Data Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Phone: +49 2461 61 6899<tel:%2B49%202461%2061%206899> Fax: +49 2461 61 6656<tel:%2B49%202461%2061%206656> -- Ahmed Shiraz Memon Federated Systems and Data Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Phone: +49 2461 61 6899 Fax: +49 2461 61 6656 -- Scanned by iCritical.
David, I just uploaded some minor changes too. Make sure to grab the latest, change, and upload quickly so we don't overwrite each other. As long as we keep change tracking on we'll see who made which change. I also accepted formatting changes so that change tracking more clearly reflects substantive changes. In principle I think you're right about GLUE2 versus GLUE, except perhaps if we consider GLUE 1 and GLUE 2 major "generations" that might be totally incompatible. I'm comfortable either way and will support the majority position. I agree we should not have detail version numbers in the root element name. JP On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:00 AM, <david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
hi Shiraz, I was going to mention this quickly at tomorrows WG meeting in the AOB. I prefer GLUE not GLUE2. I think versioning info should be restricted to the XSD namespace and not used to define element names. For example, suppose in the future we introduce some extensions or new elements and call this 'GLUE2.1' or 'GLUE2.2' etc, existing XPath expressions that define the root element name would need to be re-written, e.g. '/GLUE2/ComputingService/ID'
I've also made a few grammar changes to my local version and was aiming to upload this and submit for final call after the wg meeting. thanks david
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Hi,
I have replaced the root element "Entities" with "GLUE2" in the xml rendering document[1]. The changes in the document have been tracked, so will be finalized once approved within the wg. Should you find any errors/typos, please let me or JP know.
Best regards, Shiraz and JP
[1] http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13146?download=
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Shiraz Memon <a.memon@fz-juelich.de<mailto:a.memon@fz-juelich.de>> wrote: Hi,
I tend to agree that "Glue2" or "GLUE2" is a more consistent root element name than the other two. Regardless of being (slightly) descriptive, the name also reflects the current specification version.
In spite of the fact that the "Glue" (as a root element) is being used within the LDAP rendering, we should not carry along with its legacies while modifying other spec. renderings.
Hope it won't be unfair to change my vote (certainly for the last time) for "GLUE2" :)
If there are no real objections, can we close the issue and proceed with the publication process.
Best regards, Shiraz
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Warren Smith <wsmith@tacc.utexas.edu<mailto:wsmith@tacc.utexas.edu>> wrote:
The GFD.147 document uses ‘GLUE’ instead of ‘Glue’. The XML element names follow the CamelCase of the attribute names in GFD.147, so you could argue that we should follow the capitalization of glue, also.
And as Florido mentions, we could use ‘GLUE2’ to be more precise.
I think ‘GLUE2’ would be my favorite of those three options (since that is how I think of our effort). Using something more descriptive than ‘Entities’ as the root element makes sense to me.
Warren
From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org> [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org>] On Behalf Of Shiraz Memon Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:27 AM To: OGF GLUE WG Subject: Re: [glue-wg] FW: Change Doc Root element name in GLUE2 XML rendering
Hi David,
For consistency and readability's sake, I would vote for "Glue" as the main root element. This can be seen as one of the changes needed by the potential glue compliant information system/application(s) that aims to adopt the latest xml flat rendering. Thus, better to change it now than later.
With that, however, one more proponent has been added :)
Has any deadline been fixed to reach the final agreement on this issue?
Best regards, Shiraz
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote: Hi all, Are there any more comments/votes regarding the proposed change of the Document root element name from ‘<Entities>’ to ‘<Glue>’ (see original message copied below)? So far, 2 votes for (DM, JP) and 1 vote against (Florido).
Can we get this resolved so we can move to the last step in the OGF doc process for the Glue2 xml rendering (i.e. final call)
Cheers, David
From: Meredith, David (STFC,DL,SC) Sent: 19 September 2013 10:42 To: glue-wg@ogf.org<mailto:glue-wg@ogf.org> WG Subject: Change Doc Root element name
hi all, I have one suggestion for a small change for the glue2 XML rendering. Since the Ldap rendering defines 'glue' as the root attribute in an RDN string, similarly we could consider changing the Document Root element from '<Entities>' to '<Glue>'. This is a v.minor change and would be more consistent with the ldap rendering.
What do you think? David http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/9/topics/29
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Behalf Of david.meredith@stfc.ac.uk said: I was going to mention this quickly at tomorrows WG meeting in the AOB. I prefer GLUE not GLUE2. I think versioning info should be restricted to the XSD namespace and not used to define element names.
Usually I would agree with that (I made the same comment about interface names). However here things are a bit different, because GLUE 1 and GLUE 2 are radically different and incompatible, but may nevertheless need to coexist, albeit perhaps not in XML. My general assumption would be that there will probably never be a GLUE 3 and if there were it would be similarly incompatible, although the future is always hard to predict ... Stephen -- Scanned by iCritical.
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david.meredith＠stfc.ac.uk -
Florido Paganelli -
JP Navarro -
Shiraz Memon -
stephen.burke＠stfc.ac.uk -
Warren Smith