GLUE WG teleconference, Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Greetings GLUE WG, Based on a preferences expressed by some, our next GLUE WG teleconference will be: : Tuesday, March 25, 2014 : 15:30-17:00 Central Europe, 8:30-10:00 AM US Central Teleconference and screen sharing: : https://webconf.vc.dfn.de/ogf-glue-wg/ (Adobe Connect) : Login as Guest using your real name Proposed agenda: 1) Cloud extensions (Salvatore: 10 minute status update) OGF 40 ACTION: The group agreed to request that the GLUE Specification v 2.1 submitted with Cloud extensions be RE-SUBMITTED by the authors with change tracking enabled so that all the changes with respect to the current Specification v2.0 are clearly visible. All other editing by anyone in the group should be change tracked until the group approves, submits, and officially releases v 2.1. 2) LDAP rendering (JP/Shiraz: 10 minute status update) OGF 40 ACTION: The group agreed that the final editing for comprehensibility should be done by JP and Shiraz: 1. Make sure the purpose of the DIT Appendix is clear and who the target audience (people writing implementation and/or users) 2. Make it clear that the main purpose of the document is to define the LDAP rendering of the schema. Reference to the schema should be included, perhaps in an Appendix. 3. JP and Shiraz should report back to working group with a change tracked version for final review 3) Enumerations (All: 1 hour) Enumerations process, policies, and guidelines. Specific proposed new enumerations. BES/JSDL related enumerations and attributes needs (Andrew) Regards, JP and Shiraz
Correction for anyone joining from the US, the meeting starts at 9:30 AM US Central, not 8:30. : 15:30-17:00 Central Europe, 9:30-11:00 AM US Central JP On Mar 11, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Navarro, John-Paul F. <navarro@mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
Greetings GLUE WG,
Based on a preferences expressed by some, our next GLUE WG teleconference will be: : Tuesday, March 25, 2014 : 15:30-17:00 Central Europe, 8:30-10:00 AM US Central
Teleconference and screen sharing: : https://webconf.vc.dfn.de/ogf-glue-wg/ (Adobe Connect) : Login as Guest using your real name
Proposed agenda:
1) Cloud extensions (Salvatore: 10 minute status update)
OGF 40 ACTION: The group agreed to request that the GLUE Specification v 2.1 submitted with Cloud extensions be RE-SUBMITTED by the authors with change tracking enabled so that all the changes with respect to the current Specification v2.0 are clearly visible. All other editing by anyone in the group should be change tracked until the group approves, submits, and officially releases v 2.1.
2) LDAP rendering (JP/Shiraz: 10 minute status update)
OGF 40 ACTION: The group agreed that the final editing for comprehensibility should be done by JP and Shiraz: 1. Make sure the purpose of the DIT Appendix is clear and who the target audience (people writing implementation and/or users) 2. Make it clear that the main purpose of the document is to define the LDAP rendering of the schema. Reference to the schema should be included, perhaps in an Appendix. 3. JP and Shiraz should report back to working group with a change tracked version for final review
3) Enumerations (All: 1 hour) Enumerations process, policies, and guidelines. Specific proposed new enumerations. BES/JSDL related enumerations and attributes needs (Andrew)
Regards,
JP and Shiraz
Proposed agenda:
1) Cloud extensions (Salvatore: 10 minute status update)
OGF 40 ACTION: The group agreed to request that the GLUE Specification v 2.1 submitted with Cloud extensions be RE-SUBMITTED by the authors with change tracking enabled so that all the changes with respect to the current Specification v2.0 are clearly visible. All other editing by anyone in the group should be change tracked until the group approves, submits, and officially releases v 2.1.
Action items: 1) Salvatore to send draft with changes tracked to the list 2) JP/Shiraz to post to appropriate Redmine location 3) Salvatore to collect other proposed changes, thru the e-mail list 4) Future e-mails referencing the draft will point to the document stored in the appropriate Redmine location Motivation for a separate set of cloud entities: - Enables clouds to evolve on their own - Doesn't change the structure and definition of compute entities - Currently the cloud object(s) are quite different from the compute object(s), cloud extends abstracts - There was a new "cost" abstract entity, but no change to existing ones Warren is already publishing cloud using compute entities (not storage). Action: 5) Warren will post to list information on his use of compute entities for clouds and areas he sees/needs improvement 6) Salvatore will post the list the main factors that motivated separate entities rather than leveraging compute entities 7) Salvatore will contact CERN on whether they want to participate in federated cloud discovery effort in the GLUE WG 8) Shiraz/JP will make discussing items 5) and 6) above the main topic our next GLUE WG call EVERYONE: Please reply if you are interested in participating in a discussion of 5) and 6) above and are not available April 8 or 25 at 15:30 Central European time/8:30 AM Central US.
2) LDAP rendering (JP/Shiraz: 10 minute status update) OGF 40 ACTION: The group agreed that the final editing for comprehensibility should be done by JP and Shiraz: 1. Make sure the purpose of the DIT Appendix is clear and who the target audience (people writing implementation and/or users) 2. Make it clear that the main purpose of the document is to define the LDAP rendering of the schema. Reference to the schema should be included, perhaps in an Appendix. 3. JP and Shiraz should report back to working group with a change tracked version for final review
3) Enumerations (All: 1 hour) Salvatore has produced a draft process, policies, and guidelines document. We discussed some aspects of the document and then applied it the process to some proposed Enumeration changes. Action:
If the document is approved there will be implementation changes. Action: 9) Shiraz/JP to review LDAP document by next meeting. 10) Everyone review and comment thru the glue list to the document attached here: http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6583
BES/JSDL related enumerations and attributes needs (Andrew)
Future meetings all at 15:30 Central Europe, 8:30 Central US. Thanks, JP
Dear John,
If the document is approved there will be implementation changes. Action: 9) Shiraz/JP to review LDAP document by next meeting.
Could you please give more details on these implementation changes? Thanks! Maria
Florido and Stephen can produce the most accurate list of changes. I know they've presented them before. I believe the latest LDAP rendering draft is here: http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6569 JP On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:32 AM, Maria Alandes Pradillo <Maria.Alandes.Pradillo@cern.ch> wrote:
Dear John,
If the document is approved there will be implementation changes. Action: 9) Shiraz/JP to review LDAP document by next meeting.
Could you please give more details on these implementation changes?
Thanks! Maria
Dear John, What it is not clear to me is what you mean by "implementation changes". Does this refer to changes on the existing GLUE 2 LDAP implementations like i.e. the BDII? Thanks a lot, Maria
-----Original Message----- From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Navarro, John-Paul F. Sent: 26 March 2014 13:49 To: Florido Paganelli; s.burke@rl.ac.uk Cc: OGF GLUE Working Group Subject: Re: [glue-wg] Notes: GLUE WG teleconference, Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Florido and Stephen can produce the most accurate list of changes. I know they've presented them before.
I believe the latest LDAP rendering draft is here: http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6569
JP
On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:32 AM, Maria Alandes Pradillo <Maria.Alandes.Pradillo@cern.ch> wrote:
Dear John,
If the document is approved there will be implementation changes. Action: 9) Shiraz/JP to review LDAP document by next meeting.
Could you please give more details on these implementation changes?
Thanks! Maria
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Maria Alandes Pradillo [mailto:Maria.Alandes.Pradillo@cern.ch] said:
What it is not clear to me is what you mean by "implementation changes". Does this refer to changes on the existing GLUE 2 LDAP implementations like i.e. the BDII?
I'm not sure what Florido has in mind, but the only thing I'm aware of is the change of type for Extended Boolean attributes from boolean to string - I think you may already have implemented that? Stephen -- Scanned by iCritical.
Hi Maria, It refers to the GLUE2 schema only. Some changes we already did at EMI times, some we didn't. They're clearly marked in comments in the draft. Me and Stephen took care that this will not disrupt the current status of services. If you need a summary, I can't provide right now, I'll try to remember when I have some spare time. Last time I put the latest draft here: http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6569 Stephen or the others might have a more up to date one. Cheers, Florido On 2014-03-26 14:08, Maria Alandes Pradillo wrote:
Dear John,
What it is not clear to me is what you mean by "implementation changes". Does this refer to changes on the existing GLUE 2 LDAP implementations like i.e. the BDII?
Thanks a lot, Maria
-----Original Message----- From: glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:glue-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Navarro, John-Paul F. Sent: 26 March 2014 13:49 To: Florido Paganelli; s.burke@rl.ac.uk Cc: OGF GLUE Working Group Subject: Re: [glue-wg] Notes: GLUE WG teleconference, Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Florido and Stephen can produce the most accurate list of changes. I know they've presented them before.
I believe the latest LDAP rendering draft is here: http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6569
JP
On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:32 AM, Maria Alandes Pradillo <Maria.Alandes.Pradillo@cern.ch> wrote:
Dear John,
If the document is approved there will be implementation changes. Action: 9) Shiraz/JP to review LDAP document by next meeting.
Could you please give more details on these implementation changes?
Thanks! Maria
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Hi all, On 2014-03-25 21:56, Navarro, John-Paul F. wrote:
[...] 3) Enumerations (All: 1 hour) Salvatore has produced a draft process, policies, and guidelines document.
Was me, but nevermind :)
We discussed some aspects of the document and then applied it the process to some proposed Enumeration changes. Action: 10) Everyone review and comment thru the glue list to the document attached here: http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf/glue-wg?folder_id=6583
As requested, I posted a pdf version of the file : http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13228?download= I'll fix the approved enumerations by this and the next week. Cheers, Florido -- ================================================== Florido Paganelli ARC Middleware Developer - NorduGrid Collaboration System Administrator Lund University Department of Physics Division of Particle Physics BOX118 221 00 Lund Office Location: Fysikum, Hus B, Rum B313 Office Tel: 046-2220272 Email: florido.paganelli@REMOVE_THIShep.lu.se Homepage: http://www.hep.lu.se/staff/paganelli ==================================================
Hi all, I uploaded the new approved enumerations to git-hub: https://github.com/OGF-GLUE/Enumerations As discussed in the meeting. Some are still pending though, due to various reasons that I am trying to sort out. Cheers, Florido -- ================================================== Florido Paganelli ARC Middleware Developer - NorduGrid Collaboration System Administrator Lund University Department of Physics Division of Particle Physics BOX118 221 00 Lund Office Location: Fysikum, Hus B, Rum B313 Office Tel: 046-2220272 Email: florido.paganelli@REMOVE_THIShep.lu.se Homepage: http://www.hep.lu.se/staff/paganelli ==================================================
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