Hi Balasz, On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Balazs Konya <balazs.konya@hep.lu.se> wrote:
Dear Stephen, Glue group,
The decision making process in OGF is not very well defined, therefore if possible a consensus is always preferred.
See GFD.3 (http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.3.pdf), section 3.5, paragraph 1: "The working group or research group chair is responsible for ensuring that the group makes progress toward the objectives outlined in the group charter and that the group process is fair, open, and marked by consensus. An excellent overview of the responsibilities and role of a working group chair can be found in [1], and a similar overview of the responsibilities and role of a research group chair can be found in [5]." [1] is RFC-2418 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2418.txt) (OGF is explicitly modeled after IETF), where section 3 describes the WG operation processes in some detail, including how to define consensus. In particular 3.3 states: "Working groups make decisions through a "rough consensus" process. IETF consensus does not require that all participants agree although this is, of course, preferred. In general, the dominant view of the working group shall prevail. [...] Consensus can be determined by a show of hands, humming, or any other means on which the WG agrees (by rough consensus, of course). Note that 51% of the working group does not qualify as "rough consensus" and 99% is better than rough. It is up to the Chair to determine if rough consensus has been reached." So, you as a chair should provide the consensus process which fits your group best, and you as chair are responsible for defining when consensus has been reached. Several OGF groups have stalled in the past because chairs did not dare to make that call *sigh* Sorry for the heavyweight reply to a likely off-handed remark, but I hear that point very often, and we would really get rid of the image that OGF processes are ill defined. It is simply that ADs/chairs/members did not read the documents they should read (GFD.2, GFD.3, GFD.152), and/or did not communicate the relevant parts to the groups. Best, Andre :-)
Balazs Konya as OGF Glue WG co-chair this time
-- Balázs Kónya
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