Hello Etienne, I completely agree with the assessment that operational issues, such as IGTF trust anchor, are definitely out of scope for PGI, even though they might be in the GIN scope. I would also like to point out that SPG policies have their root in WLCG requirements, as WLCG was the infrastructure that originally mandated the group. These policies are neither mandatory (i.e., they can be superseded by local site policies), nor are they immutable (i.e., they can change following new requirements). In addition, SPG policies take great care of not requiring any specific technology. IGTF is the very rare exception, but even IGTF is not locked to a single technology per se, as nothing in the IGTF charter requires compliance to any specific implementation. All in all, I believe this is a non-issue for PGI, and probably even for GIN. Cheers, Oxana 22.09.2010 12:00, Etienne URBAH пишет:
Bernd,
Concerning the issue of which CAs are trusted by which infrastructure :
I have carefully read again the "focus and scope" of OGF PGI. You are right, it does NOT mention operational policies such as the one above.
So, members of OGF PGI are free to ignore this issue.
But I feel that this issue is a potential blocking point for practical interoperation, so a more appropriate audience for this issue is perhaps OGF GIN-CG.
Best regards.
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On Tue, 21/09/2010 23:10, Bernd Schuller wrote:
hi Etienne, PGI,
is it an aim of PGI-WG to discuss operational policies such as which CAs are trusted by which infrastructure? The group's "focus and scope" at http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/projects/pgi-wg does not mention this.
Up to now, I assumed PGI is about defining and/or profiling specifications for compute, data, etc, and *not* about operational issues in specific existing or future infrastructures? Is this no longer the case?
Thanks for any clarification on this question, Bernd.
On Di, 2010-09-21 at 21:07 +0200, Etienne URBAH wrote:
Duane and Andrew,
I have carefully read the document 'Genesis-II Security Implementation' at http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15435?nav=1
Basic interoperation between different grid infrastructures require to establish mutual trust and common processes.
Currently, Security Policies for EGI are proposed by EGI SPG 'Security Policy Group' at https://wiki.egi.eu/wiki/SPG In particular, 'Approval of Certification Authorities' at https://documents.egi.eu/public/ShowDocument?docid=83 defines that the Trust Anchor is IGTF http://www.igtf.net/
In order to permit basic interoperation between EGI and infrastructures using Genesis II, members of EGI SPG need to have precise information on Trust Anchor and Security Process used by grid infrastructures using Genesis II. [...]
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