From: "Peter Troeger" <peter.troeger@hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
To: "Andreas Haas" <Andreas.Haas@Sun.COM>
Cc: "Ruben Santiago Montero" <rubensm@dacya.ucm.es>,
	"Hrabri Rajic" <hrabri@sbcglobal.net>,
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	"Roger Brobst" <rbrobst@cadence.com>,
	"Daniel Templeton" <Dan.Templeton@Sun.COM>
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Subject: Re: GridWay Experience Report
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:33:19 -0500
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>>>- State of jobs after suspension: I loved to read this, since I had
>>>exactly the same problem in the Condor DRMAA implementation. I ended up
>>>with marking such jobs as "was suspended before", in order to give the
>>>right active state afterwards. If we want to change the spec according
>>>to this, we have a post 1.0 issue.
>>
>>Great!. I think I can just make the same thing in GridWay DRMAA.
> 
> 
> Hm ... I doubt this is a good idea. Job suspension is different
> from triggering job rescheduling. If implementing job suspension
> is a severe problem for DRM vendors, I believe that should be rather
> an argument for not making it mandatory rather than deviating
> from the standard.

Even though we are running out of time for spec changes, this should be
a topic for the next DRMAA phone conference. Hrabri, could you put this
on the agenda ?

Regards,
Peter.

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;- State of jobs after suspension: I loved =
to read this, since I had</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;exactly the same problem in the Condor =
DRMAA implementation. I ended up</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;with marking such jobs as &quot;was =
suspended before&quot;, in order to give the</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;right active state afterwards. If we want =
to change the spec according</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;&gt;to this, we have a post 1.0 issue.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&gt;Great!. I think I can just make the same =
thing in GridWay DRMAA.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hm ... I doubt this is a good idea. Job =
suspension is different</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; from triggering job rescheduling. If =
implementing job suspension</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; is a severe problem for DRM vendors, I believe =
that should be rather</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; an argument for not making it mandatory rather =
than deviating</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; from the standard.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Even though we are running out of time for spec =
changes, this should be</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>a topic for the next DRMAA phone conference. Hrabri, =
could you put this</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>on the agenda ?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards,</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Peter.</FONT>
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