The session at OGF21 went very well. We had lots of great people in the room, so we were actually able to have a useful conversation. Since I was both trying to lead and take notes, my notes are not comprehensive, but I think they capture the high points. * DRMAA next - First important milestone is ISV buy-in - An important element of a next version is very explicit backwards compatibility - What effect will DRMAA next have on SAGA and vice versa? . It was roughly agreed that if DRMAA next leans towards SAGA, SAGA may consider using DRMAA . Andre Merzky volunteered to work on a sample integration of DRMAA into SAGA . The point was made that while SAGA has its place, so does DRMAA. Being just a submit/monitor/control API may be an advantage in some cases - Resource discovery is an important missing piece . Where is my job running? . What resources are available for my job to run on? - Need to be able to query more info, like the list of submitted jobs (even beyond the session boundary) - Where does JSDL fit in? . On the back end, making DRMAA an API front end of JSDL over HPCP . As a mechanism for sharing job templates among applications - The general agreement was that rather than a monolithic DRMAA next, it would be better to have a series of extension modules for 1.0, and then DRMAA next becomes a blessed assembly of those extensions. . An obvious first module would be utility functions for converting job templates to/from JSDL Daniel