Dear all, this discussion thread is intended to clarify the future of partial time stamps in DRMAA2. This feature of DRMAA 1.0 allows the expression of relative time information (e.g. "Start the job on next Monday"). It is used for the job template attributes "startTime" and "deadlineTime". The DRMAA2 survey clearly showed that this is an unnecessary feature from the user perspective. From our actual knowledge, no implementation beside SGE supports it. The standard implementation strategy instead is to support complete date / time information in the DRMAA string format, which is not compatible to anything. The Condor experience report discusses this to a great extend, and proposes ISO8601 resp. RFC822 as new data format for time information. The following questions need to be clarified: Is there any unknown use case / existing application for the partial time stamp feature ? Does it prevent us from dropping it ? What time standard could act as replacement ? Is this time standard mappable to all relevant programming languages (and their native date / time representation) ? Is this time standard mappable to all relevant DRM systems ? Can the standard also support the expression of an amount of time (TimeAmount IDL type, used for limit values in job templates) ? Please post the perspective from your favorite DRM system / programming language. Thanks, Peter.