My understanding was different from what is quoted below. 'delimited' can always be terminated by the end of the data or the end of an enclosing known-length element. Without that rule, the simplest scenario involving an infix delimiter will not work correctly ( or will force the user to set lengthKind='endOfParent' on the final group member, which would be very unintuitive ). There is a difference between endOfParent and delimited though. Delimited is not allowed when representation='binary'. 'endOfParent' is. regards, Tim Kimber, Common Transformation Team, Hursley, UK Internet: kimbert@uk.ibm.com Tel. 01962-816742 Internal tel. 246742 From: dfdl-wg-request@ogf.org To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org Date: 08/01/2010 18:02 Subject: dfdl-wg Digest, Vol 41, Issue 8 Send dfdl-wg mailing list submissions to dfdl-wg@ogf.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dfdl-wg or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to dfdl-wg-request@ogf.org You can reach the person managing the list at dfdl-wg-owner@ogf.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of dfdl-wg digest..." Today's Topics: 1. dfdl:lentgKind= 'delimited' and 'endOfParent' (Alan Powell) ----- Message from Alan Powell <alan_powell@uk.ibm.com> on Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:10:51 +0000 ----- To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org Subject: [DFDL-WG] dfdl:lentgKind= 'delimited' and 'endOfParent' Since we extended the meaning of dfdl:lengthKind= 'delimited' to include 'delimited' means the item is delimited by the item’s terminator (if specified) or an enclosing construct’s separator or the end of the enclosing construct designated by its known length or its terminator. the only difference with dfdl:lentghKind='endOfParent' is that the latter includes the 'end of the data stream'. We should either Add 'end of data stream' to delimited and remove 'endOfParent' Make 'endOfParent' be specifically for only 'end of data stream' Alan Powell MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley, Winchester, SO21 2JN, England Notes Id: Alan Powell/UK/IBM email: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com Tel: +44 (0)1962 815073 Fax: +44 (0)1962 816898 Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- dfdl-wg mailing list dfdl-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dfdl-wg Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU