Re: [DFDL-WG] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: proof text for ISO/IEC 23415
Lisa, We found some additional issues with the previously sent ISO DFDL PDF. Besides the problem with the footers being cut off (already reported) we found: - Links do not work: - Table-of-contents entries do not let you navigate to the sections. - Internal links like "[XML]" to the references section do not work. - Hyperlink text in the references sections do not work. - The page margins are inconsistent. Viewed with 2 pages on screen side by side, the left pages have narrow left margin in comparison to right pages. - Tables 46 and 47 in Sections 14.2.1 and 14.2.1 break across page boundaries. This makes them very hard to interpret, and while some large tables can split across pages normally, for these specific tables, the page boundary makes it very hard to understand them. Manual breaks should be inserted to avoid this. - Table 48 in Section 14.2.3 does not have a bad-break currently. But this table is also one that a page-break across it needs to be avoided. Please forward these to the right parties who are preparing the ISO/IEC version. Thank you Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:42 AM Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> wrote:
Mike,
I have sent your comment to ISO and now it is their hands. No one has asked for anything more from you. I will keep you posted.
Best Lisa
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*From: *Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> *Date: *Friday, Mar 08, 2024 at 9:23 AM *To: *Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Fwd: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415
Lisa,
I am following up on this need for another spin on the DFDL 23415 official ISO version.
As far as I know this is out of our hands, meaning the workgroup on DFDL. However, we have a workgroup meeting this week, I am wondering if there are any actions we need or could take to help get the 23415 through the process and fully published.
Please advise
Thank you
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Steve Hanson <smhdfdl@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415 To: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> Cc: Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org>, DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>
It looks like the footer is being cut off in order to accommodate the three lines of licence text in every header.
Regards Steve
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 10:39 PM Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
Lisa,
The footer is cut off on every page of this PDF, making it impossible to see the page numbers.
I have not so far found any problem with the content of the pages, but this problem with the page footers does require a re-spin of the PDF, and if the page sizes change the table-of-contents will need its page numbers updated.
-mike
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:32 AM Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> wrote:
Good morning,
Attached please find the proof text for ISO/IEC 23415. Please confirm, by March 18, 2024, that the content is ready for publication.
Best
Lisa
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Is there any update on this Lisa? We have a workgroup call tomorrow and I'd like to have latest status. Thank you Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 12:40 PM Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
Lisa,
We found some additional issues with the previously sent ISO DFDL PDF.
Besides the problem with the footers being cut off (already reported) we found:
- Links do not work: - Table-of-contents entries do not let you navigate to the sections. - Internal links like "[XML]" to the references section do not work. - Hyperlink text in the references sections do not work. - The page margins are inconsistent. Viewed with 2 pages on screen side by side, the left pages have narrow left margin in comparison to right pages. - Tables 46 and 47 in Sections 14.2.1 and 14.2.1 break across page boundaries. This makes them very hard to interpret, and while some large tables can split across pages normally, for these specific tables, the page boundary makes it very hard to understand them. Manual breaks should be inserted to avoid this. - Table 48 in Section 14.2.3 does not have a bad-break currently. But this table is also one that a page-break across it needs to be avoided.
Please forward these to the right parties who are preparing the ISO/IEC version.
Thank you
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:42 AM Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> wrote:
Mike,
I have sent your comment to ISO and now it is their hands. No one has asked for anything more from you. I will keep you posted.
Best Lisa
Sent with BlackBerry Work (www.blackberry.com)
*From: *Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> *Date: *Friday, Mar 08, 2024 at 9:23 AM *To: *Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Fwd: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415
Lisa,
I am following up on this need for another spin on the DFDL 23415 official ISO version.
As far as I know this is out of our hands, meaning the workgroup on DFDL. However, we have a workgroup meeting this week, I am wondering if there are any actions we need or could take to help get the 23415 through the process and fully published.
Please advise
Thank you
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Steve Hanson <smhdfdl@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415 To: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> Cc: Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org>, DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>
It looks like the footer is being cut off in order to accommodate the three lines of licence text in every header.
Regards Steve
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 10:39 PM Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
Lisa,
The footer is cut off on every page of this PDF, making it impossible to see the page numbers.
I have not so far found any problem with the content of the pages, but this problem with the page footers does require a re-spin of the PDF, and if the page sizes change the table-of-contents will need its page numbers updated.
-mike
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:32 AM Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> wrote:
Good morning,
Attached please find the proof text for ISO/IEC 23415. Please confirm, by March 18, 2024, that the content is ready for publication.
Best
Lisa
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Ah. I do see that the page for ISO 23415:2024 has been updated to status 'published' and the ToC pages available for free preview appear to have fixed the page footers. We'd like to proofread/check the final version however just to be sure the other issues are all fixed. Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:32 PM Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there any update on this Lisa?
We have a workgroup call tomorrow and I'd like to have latest status.
Thank you
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 12:40 PM Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
Lisa,
We found some additional issues with the previously sent ISO DFDL PDF.
Besides the problem with the footers being cut off (already reported) we found:
- Links do not work: - Table-of-contents entries do not let you navigate to the sections. - Internal links like "[XML]" to the references section do not work. - Hyperlink text in the references sections do not work. - The page margins are inconsistent. Viewed with 2 pages on screen side by side, the left pages have narrow left margin in comparison to right pages. - Tables 46 and 47 in Sections 14.2.1 and 14.2.1 break across page boundaries. This makes them very hard to interpret, and while some large tables can split across pages normally, for these specific tables, the page boundary makes it very hard to understand them. Manual breaks should be inserted to avoid this. - Table 48 in Section 14.2.3 does not have a bad-break currently. But this table is also one that a page-break across it needs to be avoided.
Please forward these to the right parties who are preparing the ISO/IEC version.
Thank you
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:42 AM Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> wrote:
Mike,
I have sent your comment to ISO and now it is their hands. No one has asked for anything more from you. I will keep you posted.
Best Lisa
Sent with BlackBerry Work (www.blackberry.com)
*From: *Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> *Date: *Friday, Mar 08, 2024 at 9:23 AM *To: *Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Fwd: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415
Lisa,
I am following up on this need for another spin on the DFDL 23415 official ISO version.
As far as I know this is out of our hands, meaning the workgroup on DFDL. However, we have a workgroup meeting this week, I am wondering if there are any actions we need or could take to help get the 23415 through the process and fully published.
Please advise
Thank you
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Steve Hanson <smhdfdl@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415 To: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> Cc: Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org>, DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>
It looks like the footer is being cut off in order to accommodate the three lines of licence text in every header.
Regards Steve
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 10:39 PM Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
Lisa,
The footer is cut off on every page of this PDF, making it impossible to see the page numbers.
I have not so far found any problem with the content of the pages, but this problem with the page footers does require a re-spin of the PDF, and if the page sizes change the table-of-contents will need its page numbers updated.
-mike
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:32 AM Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> wrote:
Good morning,
Attached please find the proof text for ISO/IEC 23415. Please confirm, by March 18, 2024, that the content is ready for publication.
Best
Lisa
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Of the errors we had found in the prior proof text for the ISO version this one was not fixed: - Tables 46 and 47 in Sections 14.2.1 and 14.2.1 break across page boundaries. This makes them very hard to interpret, and while some large tables can split across pages normally, for these specific tables, the page boundary makes it very hard to understand them. Manual breaks should be inserted to avoid this. I'm not sure I care. I suggest we just add to the typographical corrections list to make these problematic tables unbreakable across page boundaries in the next version of the document. To include tables 46, 47, and 48 (which doesn't have a bad page break today, but we also need to avoid one there in the future). Is that sufficient? ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415 To: Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> Cc: DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg@ogf.org> Lisa, We found some additional issues with the previously sent ISO DFDL PDF. Besides the problem with the footers being cut off (already reported) we found: - Links do not work: - Table-of-contents entries do not let you navigate to the sections. - Internal links like "[XML]" to the references section do not work. - Hyperlink text in the references sections do not work. - The page margins are inconsistent. Viewed with 2 pages on screen side by side, the left pages have narrow left margin in comparison to right pages. - Tables 46 and 47 in Sections 14.2.1 and 14.2.1 break across page boundaries. This makes them very hard to interpret, and while some large tables can split across pages normally, for these specific tables, the page boundary makes it very hard to understand them. Manual breaks should be inserted to avoid this. - Table 48 in Section 14.2.3 does not have a bad-break currently. But this table is also one that a page-break across it needs to be avoided. Please forward these to the right parties who are preparing the ISO/IEC version. Thank you Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:42 AM Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> wrote:
Mike,
I have sent your comment to ISO and now it is their hands. No one has asked for anything more from you. I will keep you posted.
Best Lisa
Sent with BlackBerry Work (www.blackberry.com)
*From: *Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> *Date: *Friday, Mar 08, 2024 at 9:23 AM *To: *Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Fwd: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415
Lisa,
I am following up on this need for another spin on the DFDL 23415 official ISO version.
As far as I know this is out of our hands, meaning the workgroup on DFDL. However, we have a workgroup meeting this week, I am wondering if there are any actions we need or could take to help get the 23415 through the process and fully published.
Please advise
Thank you
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Steve Hanson <smhdfdl@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] proof text for ISO/IEC 23415 To: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> Cc: Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org>, DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>
It looks like the footer is being cut off in order to accommodate the three lines of licence text in every header.
Regards Steve
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 10:39 PM Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
Lisa,
The footer is cut off on every page of this PDF, making it impossible to see the page numbers.
I have not so far found any problem with the content of the pages, but this problem with the page footers does require a re-spin of the PDF, and if the page sizes change the table-of-contents will need its page numbers updated.
-mike
Mike Beckerle OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl Apache Daffodil PMC | daffodil.apache.org Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:32 AM Lisa Rajchel <lrajchel@ansi.org> wrote:
Good morning,
Attached please find the proof text for ISO/IEC 23415. Please confirm, by March 18, 2024, that the content is ready for publication.
Best
Lisa
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