1 Nils, defaults and unparsing Continue review proposal emailed by Alan 2 OGF 29 Chicago, June 20-22 Suman was unable to get authorization to attend. 3 Current Actions 4 Trailing alignment with lengthKind delimited or endOfParent Is it sensible to allow Trailing skip bytes with LK delimited The grammar says that trailing alignment is applied before the separator So the parser must search for the separator then remove the trailing bytes from the value and length. @Data1 *Data2*# - Test1 value=Data1 length=5 @Data1*Data2*# - Test1 value=Da length=2 (do we require that the trailing data must be the fillByte?) But bear in mind that the grammar effectively says: RightFraming = Terminator TrailingSkipBytes So the combination of dfdl:lengthKind="delimited" & dfdl:trailingSkipBytes would work when the delimiter is a terminator Steve was keen that there was consistent behaviour over different lengthKinds so that we shouldn't just disallow trailingSkipBytes for delimited. We discussed allowing TSB when terminator was specified. Alan to propose wording. 5 More on bit oriented formats Steve has been looking at a bit oriented format from the space industry The 'unused' fields could be defined as hidden or as leading/trailing skip bytes of a nearby field. But LSB and TSB are specified in bytes only. Steve proposed that LSB and TSB should be renamed leadingSkip and trailingSkip and can be specified in bits or bytes as specified by alignmentUnits or a new property skipUnits 6 separatorPolicy with optional fields and variable arrays. In particular: - separatorPolicy 'required' with variable arrays - supressAtEnd with required fields that have defaults. 7 DFDL property types. Tim has proposed more specific types for some properties. In particular separating the different kinds of entities. Current Actions: No Action 066 Investigate format for defining test cases 25/11:IBM to see if it is possible to publish its test case format. 04/12: no update ... 17/02: IBM is willing in principle to publish the test case format and some of the test cases. May need some time to build a 'compliance suite' 24/03: No progress 03/03: Discussions have been taking place on the subset of tests that will be provided. 10/03: work is progressing 17/03: work is progressing 31/03: work is progressing 14/04: And XML test case format has been defined and is being tested. 21/04. Schema for TDML defined. Need to define how this and the test cases will be made public 05/05: Work still progressing 12/05: Work still progressing 02/06: Work still progressing on technical and legal considerations 085 ALL: publicize Public comments phase to ensure a good review.. 14/04: see minutes 21/04: Press release, OMG and other standards bodies. 05/05: Alan and Steve H have contacted other standards bodies. Will ask them to add comments on spec 15/05: still no public comments 02/06: No public comments 086 AP: Nils and Defaults during unparsing - update table 31/03: TK to documetn use cases for parsing 14/04: Investigate new property to control empty string behaviour. 21/04: After investigation a new property is not required. New rules developed and tables updated. Need examples of complexTypes to confirm tables apply. Review Nils, defaulting spec section. 05/05: Discussed defaulting complex elements. Tables updated but need to add terminator. SH; to confirm WMD behaviour when infoset item has no value on unparsing Need to describe defaulting choices. 15/05: More discussion. Alan updating sections 26/05: Discussed draft updates. Stephanie to confirm asserts do not make an element required. Alan will update draft.. All: review rest of draft. 02/06: Alan updated description. Please review. Discussed Stephanie's example using discriminators. Decided no changes needed. 088 define semantics of choiceKind 'fixedLength' 31/03: TK to provide definition of calculable length. Investigate PL/I varchars and Cobol occurs dependingon. 14/04Tim had distributed a document starting the definition of calculable length for the longest choice member. Alan had done some investigation of COBOL occurs depending on and when used in the working section of a program then the maximum storage was reserved but when used in the linkage section the dependent number was uses. We need to understand how the WMB COBOL importer deals with ODO. 21/04: Need to define 'calculable length' and WMB importer ODO behaviour. 05/05: TK: Still need definition of calculable length. SKK: WMB COBOL imported behaviour with ODO 15/05: Suman sent an expmle of an imported Cobol ODo which suggested that the maximum space was reserved. He will extend the example. 02/06: no progress 092 AP: Confirm behaviour of defaulting with various occursCountKinds 093 AP: Describe trailingSkipBytes for delimited formats. Regards Alan Powell Development - MQSeries, Message Broker, ESB IBM Software Group, Application and Integration Middleware Software ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM MP211, Hursley Park Hursley, SO21 2JN United Kingdom Phone: +44-1962-815073 e-mail: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU