dfdl:textOutputMinLength
Here's the description for this property from the spec, including a change for errata 2.100. I am concerned about the red sentence about length units. textOutputMinLength Non-negative Integer. Only used when dfdl:textPadKind is 'padChar' and dfdl:lengthKind is 'delimited', 'prefixed', 'pattern' or 'endOfParent' or 'explicit' and dfdl:length is an expression, and type is not xs:string Specifies the minimum representation length during unparsing for simple types that do not allow the xs:minlength facet to be specified. The units are specified by the dfdl:lengthUnits property. If dfdl:textOutputMinLength is zero or less than the length of the representation text then no padding occurs. Annotation: dfdl:element, dfdl:simpleType However, when parsing, dfdl:lengthUnits is only used for a 'specified length' so that's dfdl:lengthKind 'explicit', 'implicit' and 'prefixed'. When 'delimited', 'pattern' or 'endOfParent' dfdl:lengthUnits is not used. I think we should be saying: "For dfdl:lengthKind 'delimited', 'pattern' and 'endOfParent' the length units are characters. For other dfdl:lengthKinds the length units are specified by the dfdl:lengthUnits property." Same argument applies to XSD minLength facet for xs:strings. Regards Steve Hanson Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL) Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group IBM SWG, Hursley, UK smh@uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
The property name is 'textOutputMinLength'. I'm wondering why it controls anything other than text output. regards, Tim Kimber, DFDL Team, Hursley, UK Internet: kimbert@uk.ibm.com Tel. 01962-816742 Internal tel. 37246742 From: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org, Date: 14/02/2013 10:41 Subject: [DFDL-WG] dfdl:textOutputMinLength Sent by: dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org Here's the description for this property from the spec, including a change for errata 2.100. I am concerned about the red sentence about length units. textOutputMinLength Non-negative Integer. Only used when dfdl:textPadKind is 'padChar' and dfdl:lengthKind is 'delimited', 'prefixed', 'pattern' or 'endOfParent' or 'explicit' and dfdl:length is an expression, and type is not xs:string Specifies the minimum representation length during unparsing for simple types that do not allow the xs:minlength facet to be specified. The units are specified by the dfdl:lengthUnits property. If dfdl:textOutputMinLength is zero or less than the length of the representation text then no padding occurs. Annotation: dfdl:element, dfdl:simpleType However, when parsing, dfdl:lengthUnits is only used for a 'specified length' so that's dfdl:lengthKind 'explicit', 'implicit' and 'prefixed'. When 'delimited', 'pattern' or 'endOfParent' dfdl:lengthUnits is not used. I think we should be saying: "For dfdl:lengthKind 'delimited', 'pattern' and 'endOfParent' the length units are characters. For other dfdl:lengthKinds the length units are specified by the dfdl:lengthUnits property." Same argument applies to XSD minLength facet for xs:strings. Regards Steve Hanson Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL) Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group IBM SWG, Hursley, UK smh@uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- dfdl-wg mailing list dfdl-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dfdl-wg Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
It only controls text output. It's in section 13.2 Properties Common to All Simple Types with Text representation. Regards Steve Hanson Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL) Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group IBM SWG, Hursley, UK smh@uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 From: Tim Kimber/UK/IBM@IBMGB To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org, Date: 14/02/2013 11:11 Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] dfdl:textOutputMinLength Sent by: dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org The property name is 'textOutputMinLength'. I'm wondering why it controls anything other than text output. regards, Tim Kimber, DFDL Team, Hursley, UK Internet: kimbert@uk.ibm.com Tel. 01962-816742 Internal tel. 37246742 From: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org, Date: 14/02/2013 10:41 Subject: [DFDL-WG] dfdl:textOutputMinLength Sent by: dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org Here's the description for this property from the spec, including a change for errata 2.100. I am concerned about the red sentence about length units. textOutputMinLength Non-negative Integer. Only used when dfdl:textPadKind is 'padChar' and dfdl:lengthKind is 'delimited', 'prefixed', 'pattern' or 'endOfParent' or 'explicit' and dfdl:length is an expression, and type is not xs:string Specifies the minimum representation length during unparsing for simple types that do not allow the xs:minlength facet to be specified. The units are specified by the dfdl:lengthUnits property. If dfdl:textOutputMinLength is zero or less than the length of the representation text then no padding occurs. Annotation: dfdl:element, dfdl:simpleType However, when parsing, dfdl:lengthUnits is only used for a 'specified length' so that's dfdl:lengthKind 'explicit', 'implicit' and 'prefixed'. When 'delimited', 'pattern' or 'endOfParent' dfdl:lengthUnits is not used. I think we should be saying: "For dfdl:lengthKind 'delimited', 'pattern' and 'endOfParent' the length units are characters. For other dfdl:lengthKinds the length units are specified by the dfdl:lengthUnits property." Same argument applies to XSD minLength facet for xs:strings. Regards Steve Hanson Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL) Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group IBM SWG, Hursley, UK smh@uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- dfdl-wg mailing list dfdl-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dfdl-wg Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- dfdl-wg mailing list dfdl-wg@ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dfdl-wg Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
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