Minutes for OGF DFDL Working Group Call, January-29-2010

Open Grid Forum: Data Format Description Language Working Group OGF DFDL Working Group Call, January-29-2010 Attendees Mike Beckerle (Oco) Steve Hanson (IBM) Alan Powell (IBM) Suman Kalia (IBM) Peter Lambros (IBM) Tim Kimber(IBM) Apologies Stephanie Fetzer (IBM) Steve Marting (Progeny) 1 Review Schedule The WG acknowledged that we are not going to meet the schedule to be available for public comment by OGF 28. Agreed to continue to complete the specification as soon as possible. OGF prereview is confirmed to take about 4 weeks assuming no document updates are required. We are behind schedule to be available for public review by March. Activity Schedule Who Complete Action items - 18 Dec 2009 WG Complete Spec Write up work items ? 23 Dec 2009 AP Restructure and complete specification - 23 Dec 2009 AP Issue Draft 038 23 Dec 2009 WG review WG review 7 Dec ? 08 Jan 2010 WG Incorporate review comments 4 Jan - 29 Jan 2010 AP + Issue Draft 039 15 Jan 2010 Incorporate review comments 4 Jan - 29 Jan 2010 AP + Issue Draft 040 29 Jan 2010 Initial OGF Editor Review Initial Editor review 1 Feb - 1 Mar 2010 OGF Initial GFSG review 1 Feb - 1 Mar 2010 Issue Draft 041 1 Mar 2010 OGF Public Comment period (60 days) 1 Mar - 30 Apr 2010 OGF OGF 28 Munich 15-19 March 2010 Incorporate comments Incorporate comments 28 May 2010 Issue Draft 042 28 May 2010 Final OGF Editor Review Final Editor review June 2010 OGF final GFSG review June 2010 Issue Final specification 30 June 2010 Publish proposed recommendation 1 July 2010 Grid recommendation process 1 Jan - 1 April 2011 2. Go through Actions Updated below Action 077: Suman said that he had been mapping COBOL structures to DFDL and it didn't look as though the way text numbers are define is very usable. He will document for next call. 3. TLog TLOG The individual fields are a mixture of ASCII strings, proprietary packed decimals, and the occasional pure binary data. All fields are delimited by a separator. Fields of all types can be fixed length or variable length with a maximum. Pure binary data is preceded by a field giving the actual length. All lengths in bytes. Packed decimals. Like a packed decimal in the IBM sense. These can carry negative numbers but use a leading xD sign nibble. No sign nibble if positive or unsigned. Odd number of digits (including sign if present) are padded with xF nibble. This is best illustrated using examples. 1234 => x12x34 123 => xF1x23 -1234 => xFDx12x34 -123 => xD1x23 Proposal 1) The 'variable length with a maximum' will be handled using a post-timing assertion. Note this only applies on parsing. ** 2) dfdl:lengthKind 'delimited' is permitted for numbers when dfdl:representation is 'binary' and dfdl:binaryNumberRep is 'packed' or 'bcd' because it is possible to know in advance the range of bytes being used, and therefore to choose suitable delimiters. 3) Core DFDL 1.0 will not be enhanced to handle the TLOG packed decimal type. A future version of DFDL will provide an extensibility mechanism that allows user-defined types to be handled. In the 1.0 timeframe IBM may implement its own proprietary extension to handle this type. ** While this can result in output from a DFDL unparser that can not be re-parsed, that is a problem general to the use of assertions, and a future version of DFDL may choose to change this by enhancements to the assertion annotation. 4 Action 071 Semantics of length=0, nil handling and defaults. Changed unparsing behaviour - we must honour the property - the existing behaviour of always writing the initiator means we can not successfully re-parse if writing empty content and enum is 'suppress'. When reading, assume that section 15.13 has been updated to include complex as well as simple elements. No change to enums. missingValueInitiatorPolicy Enum Valid values ?required', ?prohibited' Specifies whether to expect an initiator when an element is missing. Ignored unless dfdl:initiator is specified and is not "" (empty string). 'required' - Indicates that the dfdl:initiator followed by empty content is the required syntax to indicate that the element is missing. 'prohibited' - Indicates that empty content is the required syntax to indicate that the element is missing. The presence of an initiator implies that real content must follow. Use of ?prohibited? implies an ordered sequence. If used on an initiated element of an unordered group it is a schema definition error. If the element is required, defaulting occurs as defined above. This property also applies on unparsing, when the data to be written (after nil value and default value processing) is empty content. Annotation: dfdl:element Unparsing. The branch of a choice output when a complex element is required but missing from the infoset is the first branch of the choice that does not result in a processing error. 5. Go through Actions 6. Discriminators Not discussed) 7. Draft 037 review issues not discussed - Case of enumerations. We should follow the XSDL convention which is that enumerations are case sensitive - dfdl:lengthKind='Pattern scannability: A complex element with lengthKind=Pattern will use its dfdl:encoding property as the encoding when scanning its children irrespective of the child's encoding property. Go through unanswered issues in Mike's comments document Meeting closed, 14:10 Next call Tuesday 02 February January 2010 13:00 UK Next action: 078 Actions raised at this meeting No Action 077 SKK: mapping of COBOL numbers to textNumberFormats. Current Actions: No Action 045 20/05 AP: Speculative Parsing 27/05: Psuedo code has been circulated. Review for next call 03/06: Comments received and will be incorporated 09/06: Progress but not discussed 17/06: Discussed briefly 24/06: No Progress 01/07: No Progress 15/07: No progress. MB not happy with the way the algorithm is documented, need to find a better way. 29/07: No Progress 05/08: No Progress. Will document behaviour as a set of rules. 12/08: No Progress ... 16/09: no progress 30/09: AP distributed proposal and others commented. Brief discussion AP to incorporate update and reissue 07/10: Updated proposal was discussed.Comments will be incorporated into the next version. 14/10: Alan to update proposal to include array scenario where minOccurs > 0 21/10: Updated proposal reviewed 28/10: Updated proposal reviewed see minutes 04/11: Discussed semantics of disciminators on arrays. MB to produce examples 11/11: Absorbing action 033 into 045. Maybe decorated discrminator kinds are needed after all. MB and SF to continue with examples. 18/11: Went through WTX implementation of example. SF to gather more documentation about WTX discriminator rules. 25/11: Further discussion. Will get more WTX documentation. Need to confirm that no changes need to Resolving Uncertainty doc. 04/11: Further discussion about arrays. 09/12: Reviewed proposed discriminator semantic. 16/12: Reviewed discriminator examples and WTX semantic. 23/12: SF to provide better description of WTX behaviour and invite B Connolley to next call 06/01:B Connolly not available. SF to provide more complete description. 13/01: Stephaine took us through a description of WTX identifiers. Mike agreed to write up in DFDL terms. 20/01: Mike will write up 27/01: further discussion of discriminators 29/01: Alan had emailed bot proposals but not enough time to discuss 049 20/05 AP Built-in specification description and schemas 03/06: not discussed 24/06: No Progress 24/06: No Progress (hope to get these from test cases) 15/07: No progress. Once available, the examples in the spec should use the dfdl:defineFormat annotations they provide. ... 14/10: no progress 21/10: Discussed the real need for this being in the specification. It seemed that the main value is it define a schema location for downloading 'known' defaults from the web. 28/10: no progress 04/11: no progress 11/11: no update 18/11: no update 25/11: Agreed to try to produce for CSV and fixed formats 04/12: no update 09/12: no update 16/12: no update 23/12: no update 06/01: no progress. If there is no resource to complete this action it can be deferred 13/01:no progress 20/01: no progress 27/01: no progress 29/01: No progress. The predefined formats do not need to be available when the spec is published. Suman said that he had been mapping COBOL structures to DFDL and it didn't look as though the way text numbers are define is very usable. He will document for next call 066 Investigate format for defining test cases 25/11:IBM to see if it is possible to publish its test case format. 04/12: no update 09/12: no update 16/12: reminded dent to project manager 23/12: SH will send another reminder. 06/01: Another reminder will be sent 13/01: no update 20/01: no update 27/01: no progress 29/01: no progress 077 SKK: mapping of COBOL numbers to textNumberFormats. Closed actions No Action 064 MB/SH Request WG presentation at OGF 28 25/11: Session requested 04/12: no update 09/12: no update 16/12: SH has changed request to a general session rather tha WG in the hope of attracting more people. 23/12: no update 06/01: not heard anything yet 13/01: no update 20/01: no update 27/01: Session confirmed Closed 071 Semantics of length=0, nil handling and defaults. 23/12:SH no update 06/01: SH has started 13/01: SH proposal review. Minor updates to be made 20/01: Reviewed updated proposal. Need to agree on unparsing empty choices. 27/01: Steve H had sent update but not discussed due to lack of time 29/01: See minutes. Update 15.3 for complex. document missingValueInitiatorPolicy. Unparsing. The branch of a choice output when a complex element is required but missing from the infoset is the first branch of the choice that does not result in a processing error. Closed 074 SH: Proposal for parsing TLog 27/01: Proposal discussed and agreed to allow delimited for binary packed/bcd fields 29/01: See minutes. Confirmed delimited for packed/bcd Closed 075 SH: rewrite empty sequences section 27/01: Steve provide written section 29/01: scetion rewritten Closed 076 SH semantics of minOccurs= 0 on choice branches 29/01: Steve confirmed that XSDL allows minOccurs=0 for branches of a choice which means that the empty sequence in a valid result. WG decided that DFDL will not allow minOccurs =0 on branches of a choice. Closed Work items: No Item target version status 005 Improvements on property descriptions not started 012 Reordering the properties discussion: move representation earlier, improve flow of topics not started 036 Update dfdl schema with change properties ongoing 042 Mapping of the DFDL infoset to XDM none not required for V1 specification 069 ICU fractional seconds 039 070 Write DFDL primer 071 Write test cases. 072 it is a processing error if the number of occurrences in the data does not match the value of the expression or prefix 039 073 Rename dfdl:separatorPolicy="required" to "always". 039 Deferred until action 071 agreed 078 document UPA checks 039 079 Semantics of length=0, nil handling and defaults. (A071) 039 080 Tlog: Allow LengthKind delimited for packed/bcd (A074) 039 081 Update empty sequence section (A075) 039 082 semantics of minOccurs= 0 on choice branches (A076) 039 Regards Alan Powell Development - MQSeries, Message Broker, ESB IBM Software Group, Application and Integration Middleware Software ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IBM MP211, Hursley Park Hursley, SO21 2JN United Kingdom Phone: +44-1962-815073 e-mail: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
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