DFDL as an ISO standard
Alan, Wolfgang From the minutes of the last DFDL WG call in November, "OGF will write to ISO-IEC JST1 with the proposal" to make DFDL an ISO standard. Tomorrow is the first WG call since then, so just following up on that action. Regards Steve Hanson IBM Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh@uk.ibm.com<mailto:smh@uk.ibm.com> tel:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday -----Original Message----- mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday ----- Forwarded by Steve Hanson/UK/IBM on 08/02/2022 16:27 ----- From: "Steve Hanson" <smh@uk.ibm.com> To: "Wolfgang Ziegler" <wolfgang.ziegler@z-rands.de> Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org, "Mike Beckerle" <mbeckerle@owlcyberdefense.com>, "DFDL Schemas for Commercial and Scientific Data Formats" <smhdfdl@gmail.com>, "Michele Zundo" <michele.zundo@esa.int>, "Liam O'Neill" <WILONEIL@uk.ibm.com>, "Sill, Alan" <Alan.Sill@ttu.edu> Date: 12/11/2021 13:19 Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [DFDL-WG] Agenda for OGF DFDL WG Call ________________________________ Hi Wolfgang Thanks for the links. This is also a useful link, as it shows the DMTF adoptions at a higher level -https://www.dmtf.org/about/register/apresourcesRegards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart This Message Is From an External Sender This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Hi Wolfgang Thanks for the links. This is also a useful link, as it shows the DMTF adoptions at a higher level - https://www.dmtf.org/about/register/apresources<https://www.dmtf.org/about/register/apresources> Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL<http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/se-dfdl/index.html> Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group<http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/> smh@uk.ibm.com<mailto:smh@uk.ibm.com> tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday From: "Wolfgang Ziegler" <wolfgang.ziegler@z-rands.de> To: "Steve Hanson" <smh@uk.ibm.com>, dfdl-wg@ogf.org Cc: "Mike Beckerle" <mbeckerle@owlcyberdefense.com>, "DFDL Schemas for Commercial and Scientific Data Formats" <smhdfdl@gmail.com>, "Michele Zundo" <michele.zundo@esa.int>, "Liam O'Neill" <WILONEIL@uk.ibm.com>, "Sill, Alan" <Alan.Sill@ttu.edu> Date: 11/11/2021 17:00 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [DFDL-WG] Agenda for OGF DFDL WG Call ________________________________ Dear Steve, dear Mike, the example for a standard developed outside of ISO and then published as an ISO standard is Open Virtualization Format Specification from DMTF https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0243_1.1.0.pdf<https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0243_1.1.0.pdf> as ISO standard https://www.iso.org/standard/72081.html<https://www.iso.org/standard/72081.html> You can find the description of the PAS process (among other things) here https://www.iec.ch/members_experts/refdocs/iec/Consolidated_JTC1_Supplement_2020_publication.pdf<https://www.iec.ch/members_experts/refdocs/iec/Consolidated_JTC1_Supplement_2020_publication.pdf> The WG5 chair is Fernando Gebara Filho <fgebara@amazon.com> Please send me a mail if you have more questions. Best regards Wolfgang Am 11.11.21 um 15:02 schrieb Steve Hanson:
Please find agenda for next call on GitHub athttps://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL/blob/master/calls/2021-11-11_DFDL-WG-C... <https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL/blob/master/calls/2021-11-11_DFDL-WG-Call.pdf<https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL/blob/master/calls/2021-11-11_DFDL-WG-Call.pdf>>
Regards Steve Hanson
IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, _IBM DFDL_ <http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/se-dfdl/index.html> Co-Chair, _OGF DFDL Working Group_ <http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/<http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/>>_ __smh@uk.ibm.com_ <mailto:smh@uk.ibm.com> tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday
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Dear Steve, we are still working on the first step of the process, the application for OGF becoming a PAS submitter. We expect to submit the application letter begin of March. Once OGF will be a recognised PAS submitter we will have an assigned mentor who will guide us through the next steps which mostly will have to be taken by the DFDL WG. Actually I sent a mail to you and the group with some questions we need to answer in the application. It looks like the mail was not sent because I probably lost my network connection while I was travelling by train. Here are the questions - what are the expectations of the proposer toward technical and editorial changes to the specification during the transposition process? - How flexible is the proposing organization toward using only portions of the pro- posed specification or adding supplemental material to it? - What are the intentions of the proposing organization toward future additions, extensions, deletions or modifications to the specification? Under what conditions? When? Rationale? - What willingness exists to work with JTC 1 on future versions in order to avoid divergence? Note that the answer to this question is particularly relevant in cases where doubts may exist about the openness of the submitter organization. - What is the scope of the organization activities relative to specifications similar to but beyond that being proposed? - What patent rights, covering any item of the proposal, is the PAS owner aware of? - What trademarks apply to the DFDL specification? I would be great if you could discuss the questions during the next WG meeting and send us answers then. Thanks & best regards Wolfgang Am 23.02.22 um 21:34 schrieb Steve Hanson:
Alan, Wolfgang
From the minutes of the last DFDL WG call in November, "OGF will write to ISO-IEC JST1 with the proposal" to make DFDL an ISO standard. Tomorrow is the first WG call since then, so just following up on that action.
Regards Steve Hanson
IBM Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh@uk.ibm.com <mailto:smh@uk.ibm.com> tel:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday
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From: "Steve Hanson" <smh@uk.ibm.com> To: "Wolfgang Ziegler" <wolfgang.ziegler@z-rands.de> Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org, "Mike Beckerle" <mbeckerle@owlcyberdefense.com>, "DFDL Schemas for Commercial and Scientific Data Formats" <smhdfdl@gmail.com>, "Michele Zundo" <michele.zundo@esa.int>, "Liam O'Neill" <WILONEIL@uk.ibm.com>, "Sill, Alan" <Alan.Sill@ttu.edu> Date: 12/11/2021 13:19 Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [DFDL-WG] Agenda for OGF DFDL WG Call
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Hi Wolfgang Thanks for the links. This is also a useful link, as it shows the DMTF adoptions at a higher level -https://www.dmtf.org/about/register/apresources <https://www.dmtf.org/about/register/apresources>Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart *This Message Is From an External Sender* This message came from outside your organization. ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd Hi Wolfgang
Thanks for the links.
This is also a useful link, as it shows the DMTF adoptions at a higher level - _https://www.dmtf.org/about/register/apresources_ <https://www.dmtf.org/about/register/apresources>
Regards
Steve Hanson
IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, _IBM DFDL_ <http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/se-dfdl/index.html> Co-Chair, _OGF DFDL Working Group_ <http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/>_ __smh@uk.ibm.com_ <mailto:smh@uk.ibm.com> tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday
From: "Wolfgang Ziegler" <wolfgang.ziegler@z-rands.de> To: "Steve Hanson" <smh@uk.ibm.com>, dfdl-wg@ogf.org Cc: "Mike Beckerle" <mbeckerle@owlcyberdefense.com>, "DFDL Schemas for Commercial and Scientific Data Formats" <smhdfdl@gmail.com>, "Michele Zundo" <michele.zundo@esa.int>, "Liam O'Neill" <WILONEIL@uk.ibm.com>, "Sill, Alan" <Alan.Sill@ttu.edu> Date: 11/11/2021 17:00 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [DFDL-WG] Agenda for OGF DFDL WG Call
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Dear Steve, dear Mike,
the example for a standard developed outside of ISO and then published as an ISO standard is
Open Virtualization Format Specification from DMTF_ __https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0243_1.1.0.p... <https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0243_1.1.0.pdf>
as ISO standard_ __https://www.iso.org/standard/72081.html_ <https://www.iso.org/standard/72081.html>
You can find the description of the PAS process (among other things) here _ __https://www.iec.ch/members_experts/refdocs/iec/Consolidated_JTC1_Supplement_... <https://www.iec.ch/members_experts/refdocs/iec/Consolidated_JTC1_Supplement_2020_publication.pdf>
The WG5 chair is
Fernando Gebara Filho <fgebara@amazon.com>
Please send me a mail if you have more questions.
Best regards
Wolfgang
Am 11.11.21 um 15:02 schrieb Steve Hanson:
Please find agenda for next call on GitHub
athttps://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL/blob/master/calls/2021-11-11_DFDL-WG-C...
<_https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL/blob/master/calls/2021-11-11_DFDL-WG-C... <https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL/blob/master/calls/2021-11-11_DFDL-WG-Call.pdf>>
Regards Steve Hanson
IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, _IBM DFDL_
<_http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/se-dfdl/index.html_ <http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/se-dfdl/index.html>>
Co-Chair, _OGF DFDL Working Group_ <_http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/_ <http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/>>_ __smh@uk.ibm.com_ <_mailto:smh@uk.ibm.com_ <mailto:smh@uk.ibm.com>> tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday
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