Present Geoff Judd Mike Beckerle Steve Hanson Suman Bob McGrath Status on combined doc * Revision 5 has all material except variables proposal in * Size of document is a problem - 150 pages and still with blank sections. Plans for OGF in DC * We are aiming to have a draft document ready for submission/presentation to the GGF audience. * It is not clear that we can get a quorum for a face-to-face at the same time so it may make sense to separate the two. * It was suggested that we might be able to make more of teleconference/video-conference facilities, have longer calls and specific tasks particularly as we come to work more directly on a document. * Conclusion - we will seek in-principle approval for a F2F but hold off on planning a date. Status of separators * This is the task of trying to find an elegant way to express the general problem of determining the length of a structure within the data. Martin is looking at ways to capture this but does not yet have a solution that handles all the difficult cases. Tech discussion topics * We had a discussion on the inclusion of attributes. The proposal was that attributes should not be included for direct population but a specific proposal to allow their inclusion in the data model using references should be considered. * DFDL Lite - at the tail end of the meeting after some people had dropped we started considering a different approach to the problem of trimming down the scope - rather than looking for tricky things we could cut off could we look at the simplest DFDL that does something useful and build it so that it can be grown. I will send out a separate email on this topic.