Mike We originally decided that lengthUnit=characters wasn't allowed on sequence and choice because of complications with encodings etc. Then when we removed lengthKind from sequence and choice it moved up to the complex element. Remember that this is only to support the box use case and it seems unlikely you would specify the size of the box in characters. Alan Powell MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley, Winchester, SO21 2JN, England Notes Id: Alan Powell/UK/IBM email: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com Tel: +44 (0)1962 815073 Fax: +44 (0)1962 816898 From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> To: Alan Powell/UK/IBM@IBMGB Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org Date: 23/06/2009 19:07 Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] output value calc I've viewed your comments and will incorporate them and resubmit. One question is about complex types and text representation. You mentioned we don't allow lengthKind="characters" on complex types. Seems to me if representation="text" it is quite likely that everything is given in lengthUnits="characters". I'm not sure why not, though I have vague recollection of this restriction being discussed. Can you remind me? ...mike On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Alan Powell <alan_powell@uk.ibm.com> wrote: Mike Comments from our review in attached doc Alan Powell MP 211, IBM UK Labs, Hursley, Winchester, SO21 2JN, England Notes Id: Alan Powell/UK/IBM email: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com Tel: +44 (0)1962 815073 Fax: +44 (0)1962 816898 From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org Date: 19/06/2009 04:13 Subject: [DFDL-WG] output value calc New draft of output value calc stuff. based on prior review (last week) which simplified and clarified things somewhat. Examples are a simple and a complex type, with the same context - fits in a box that is rounded up in size to next multiple of 4 bytes. There's some material in here also about bit strings and use of dfdl:length measured in bits. This was to cover truncation fully. It is not a comprehensive treatment of bit fields though. All mention of variables and/or parameters is gone. See what you think. ....mike Mike Beckerle | OGF DFDL WG Co-Chair | CTO | Oco, Inc. Tel: 781-810-2125 | 100 Fifth Ave., 4th Floor, Waltham MA 02451 | mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com[attachment "outputValueCalc-and-variables-003.doc" deleted by Alan Powell/UK/IBM] -- dfdl-wg mailing list dfdl-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dfdl-wg Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU