All

Latest draft (v7 )of the nils and default document incorporating comments from this week.

Please send comments before next WG call.

Still having problems with bulleted lists
 

Regards
 
Alan Powell
 
Development - MQSeries, Message Broker, ESB
IBM Software Group, Application and Integration Middleware Software
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From: Alan Powell/UK/IBM@IBMGB
To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org
Date: 30/06/2010 13:05
Subject: [DFDL-WG] Fw:  Fw:  Fw: Action 086 Nils and Default processing







All


Latest draft of the nils and default document incorporating comments from last week.


As you will see I have been having problems with bulleted lists in word which are still not correct but I assume I can fix for the spec.




 
Regards
 
Alan Powell
 
Development - MQSeries, Message Broker, ESB
IBM Software Group, Application and Integration Middleware Software
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MP211, Hursley Park
Hursley, SO21 2JN
United Kingdom
Phone: +44-1962-815073
e-mail: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com



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From: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM
To: Alan Powell/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Date: 25/06/2010 16:07
Subject: Fw: [DFDL-WG] Fw:  Fw: Action 086 Nils and Default processing





Hi Alan - were you going to take the updates forward, or did you want me to make some changes first?


Reviewed Steve's updates to the parsing and unparsing rules.

- it might be possible to simplify the nil processing in the rules by having a defintion up front.

-  'nil indicator set' need a definition
- Discussion about whether 'usNilForDefaults' could be replaced by some way of defining a literal, out of band value for the default.

- 'value' used when should be 'output value'

- dfdl:emptyValueDelimietrPolicy description should be moved from defaulting section to initiator section.

- 'text markup' used in section 14.2 of spec  


Regards

Steve Hanson
Strategy, Common Transformation & DFDL
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL WG
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK,
smh@uk.ibm.com,
tel +44-(0)1962-815848

----- Forwarded by Steve Hanson/UK/IBM on 25/06/2010 16:00 -----
From: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM
To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org
Date: 23/06/2010 11:18
Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] Fw:  Fw: Action 086 Nils and Default processing





Here's my latest updates.  As discussed I have reworked the 'Nils & Defaults on parsing/unparsing' sections.


One question was thrown up.  On parsing when a required complex element is missing, we add it to the infoset as long as applying default processing to its missing children does not cause an error. You will see I have used the phrase '
Missing element processing is applied to all child elements.' to cover this.  But 'Missing element processing' as now spelled out in the same section includes 'nillable and empty string' processing when the child is simple. Does this apply here?

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Regards

Steve Hanson
Strategy, Common Transformation & DFDL
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL WG
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK,
smh@uk.ibm.com,
tel +44-(0)1962-815848


From: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM
To: Alan Powell/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org
Date: 16/06/2010 14:40
Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] Fw:  Fw: Action 086 Nils and Default processing





Hi Alan


I've updated the document and added some comments. Still quite a bit to discuss.




Regards

Steve Hanson
Strategy, Common Transformation & DFDL
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL WG
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK,
smh@uk.ibm.com,
tel +44-(0)1962-815848



From: Alan Powell/UK/IBM@IBMGB
To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org
Date: 02/06/2010 11:21
Subject: [DFDL-WG] Fw:  Fw: Action 086 Nils and Default processing
Sent by: dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org






I have updated based on last weeks call



 
 
Regards
 
Alan Powell
 
Development - MQSeries, Message Broker, ESB
IBM Software Group, Application and Integration Middleware Software
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MP211, Hursley Park
Hursley, SO21 2JN
United Kingdom
Phone: +44-1962-815073
e-mail: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com



----- Forwarded by Alan Powell/UK/IBM on 02/06/2010 11:20 -----
From: Alan Powell/UK/IBM@IBMGB
To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org
Date: 25/05/2010 17:27
Subject: [DFDL-WG] Fw: Action 086 Nils and Default processing







All
 

I have added unparsing and corrected some of the existing information in this latest version.
 


 

I did attempt to write out the dfdl:nilValueDelimiterPolicy and dfdl:emptyValueDelimiterPolicy options in full but it became unreadable hence the 'as controlled by' short cut.
 
 
Links still don't work
 
Regards  
 
Alan Powell  
 
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IBM Software Group, Application and Integration Middleware Software  
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IBM  
MP211, Hursley Park  
Hursley, SO21 2JN  
United Kingdom  
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e-mail: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com



----- Forwarded by Alan Powell/UK/IBM on 25/05/2010 17:22 -----
 
From:   Alan Powell/UK/IBM  
To:   dfdl-wg@ogf.org  
Date:   13/05/2010 17:28  
Subject:   Action 086 Nils and Default processing







All
 

Attached is an updated version of the nils and defaults sections of the specification. I have only completed the parsing section so far which you should be able to review while I am on vacation. If someone would like to add the unparsing section that would be great.
 


 
Note that the cross references are not correct.  
Regards  
 
Alan Powell  
 
Development - MQSeries, Message Broker, ESB  
IBM Software Group, Application and Integration Middleware Software  
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IBM  
MP211, Hursley Park  
Hursley, SO21 2JN  
United Kingdom  
Phone: +44-1962-815073  
e-mail: alan_powell@uk.ibm.com



 

 





 

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