Mike

You said "They all have the default unprefixed namespace as XML Schema's namespace." Technically your schema doesn't, it is using a different namespace.

        xmlns="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/XMLSchemaSubset"

I assume this is the standard 2001 XMLSchema namespace but cut-down so as to include just the constructs DFDL uses in its subset?

Your namespace is not formally defined in the DFDL spec, and no such xsd is freely available at that URL, so your schema is not portable and fails to validate.
It also means that you can't strip out all the DFDL stuff and leave a pure XML Schema that any schema processor can handle.
Should we make your schema generally available at that URL, so it is resolved by schema processor?

The IBM implementation does not define such a subset, it just uses the standard  2001 XMLSchema namespace "http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema", and then does extra checking to flag constructs and types that are not in the DFDL subset. More work, but with all DFDL stuff removed the result is a pure XML Schema.

If I change your schema below to use the standard  2001 XMLSchema namespace then the IBM schema validator gives the following error...

        CTDX1100E : XSD: Type reference 'http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#bar' is unresolved

...because it is looking in the 2001 XMLSchema namespace xsd for "bar".

Regards

Steve Hanson
Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair,
OGF DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK

smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848




From:        Suman Kalia <kalia@ca.ibm.com>
To:        Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
Cc:        dfdl-wg@ogf.org, dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org
Date:        19/03/2012 03:25
Subject:        Re: [DFDL-WG] XML Schema do type references have to be qualified?
Sent by:        dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org





Mike -  In the absence of explicit qualification, you cannot unambiguously say whether type bar is in your namespace or notarget namespace.  It should be flagged as an error in my opinion...




From:        
Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To:        
dfdl-wg@ogf.org
Date:        
03/16/2012 05:04 PM
Subject:        
Re: [DFDL-WG] XML Schema do type references have to be qualified?
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So, I did some research, and answered my own question.

Section 3.3.4.2 of "Definitive XML Schema" by Walmsley, says that the
schema below is illegal as the name
"bar" will be interpreted as a reference to xsd:bar, not the targetNamespace.

However, it seems many XML Schema processors may be tolerant of this error.


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
> Suman,
>
> In and XMLSchema/DFDLSchema do I have to qualify the names of types?
>
> We have a bunch of test schemas written roughly like the example
> below. They all have the default unprefixed namespace as XML Schema's
> namespace. They also all have a target namespace.
>
> But some or all of the type references to named types use unqualified
> names. In my mind, that means they would be assumed to be in the XML
> Schema namespace, not the targetNamespace.
>
> On the other hand, the XML Schema validator doesn't complain. But that
> just means the schema is valid, not necessarily meaningful.
>
> Example here:
>
> <schema xmlns="
http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/XMLSchemaSubset"
> targetNamespace="
http://example.com">
> <element name="foo" type="bar"/><!-- IS THIS LEGAL, no prefix on name> of the type. -->
> <complexType name="bar">
>   <sequence/>
> </complexType>
> </schema>
>
>
> Mike Beckerle | OGF DFDL WG Co-Chair
> Tel:  781-330-0412



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