Yes we could define specific QNames for each. But is the user allowed to use fn:error() with any other QNames? There are a bunch defined. And if so, what does that mean in terms of PE v SDE ? Maybe we should restrict use just to our DFDL QNames.

Regards

Steve Hanson
IBM Integration Bus, Hursley, UK
Architect, IBM DFDL
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group
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From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Cc: "dfdl-wg@ogf.org" <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>
Date: 03/08/2016 14:53
Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] still no need for fn:error - re-assess

It would certainly be valuable to throw an SDE as well as a PE. When unparsing there isn't much diffierence since both are fatal, but when parsing it's quite important.

I suppose we could use the QName argument as a means of distinguishing these two types of error?

...mikeb

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 5:34 AM, Steve Hanson <smh@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
Agreed that fn:error() looks suitable. Is the assumption that it always throws a PE, or do we want the ability to throw an SDE as well ?

I ask because section 23 maps all but one XPath error to SDE.

Regards

Steve Hanson
IBM Integration Bus, Hursley, UK
Architect, IBM DFDL
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
mob:+44-7717-378890

From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Cc: "dfdl-wg@ogf.org" <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>
Date: 06/07/2016 14:02
Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] still no need for fn:error - re-assess

I recall now that QName is a subtype of string, so it's just a kind of string.

So I agree. I guess fn:error can be used as per XPath without modification.

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On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Steve Hanson <smh@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
Mike

True that xs:QName is not a type that is supported as the simple type of an element, but we do use QNames elsewhere in DFDL schema, eg, in element refs, type references, as the type of some DFDL properties (eg, dfdl:ref, dfdl:hiddenGroupRef, dfdl:prefixLengthType), to reference variables in expressions, ... So I don't see a problem with having a function argument being a QName.

Regards

Steve Hanson
IBM Integration Bus, Hursley, UK
Architect, IBM DFDL
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
mob:+44-7717-378890

From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Cc: "dfdl-wg@ogf.org" <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>
Date: 05/07/2016 19:08
Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] still no need for fn:error - re-assess

So the fn:error() XPath function takes a problematic argument.

All the arguments are optional, so fn:error() is legal.

The first argument is of type xs:qQName, and we don't have that type in DFDL. So the best we could do is to accept a string that is in the "form" of a QName, e.g.,
"foo:bar".

The second argument is a description string, third and subsequent args are objects. The manner by which this string and objects are provided to the execution environment is implementation dependent according to the XQuery and XPath spec, and this is fine for DFDL implementations also.

The lack of the QName type for the first argument suggests we're going to need to create dfdl:error(string, string, item()*), where the first argument is a string in the form of a QName, and the other arguments are as per fn:error.

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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Steve Hanson <smh@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
WG agreed that an error function is needed, action 288 raised.

No	Action
288	Decide on error function specification (Mike) 5/7: An error function is useful for expressions when unparsing. Mike to evaluate XPath fn:error().

Regards

Steve Hanson
IBM Integration Bus, Hursley, UK
Architect, IBM DFDL
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
mob:+44-7717-378890

From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To: "dfdl-wg@ogf.org" <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>
Date: 14/06/2016 17:10
Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] still no need for fn:error
Sent by: "dfdl-wg" <dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org>

I want to re-open the discussion of fn:error.

Previously we said it was not needed because an assert could be used.

However, we've now run into where we want to cause an error, during unparsing, during outputValueCalc.

<xs:element name="Protocol" type="pcap:bit" dfdl:length="8"
           dfdl:outputValueCalc="{
           if (fn:exists(../../pcap:ICMPv4)) then 1
           else if (fn:exists(../../pcap:TransportLayer/pcap:TCP )) then 6
           else if (fn:exists(../../pcap:TransportLayer/pcap:UDP )) then 17
           else -1 }"/>

That -1 at the end. That's an error case. We really want fn:error("Unrecognized protocol.")

We can't change to a dfdl:assert, because assertions aren't evaluated when unparsing.

Comments?

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On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> wrote:
Respin of this example:

Here's the example as suggested by Jonathan of how to issue an error that I previously was suggesting needed fn:error. I'm convinced this is sufficient and we can avoid the need for fn:error now.

<xs:element name="magic_number" type="ex:uint32" dfdl:byteOrder="bigEndian">
<xs:annotation>
<xs:appinfo source="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/">
     <dfdl:assert
       test="{ (xs:unsignedInt(.) eq dfdl:unsignedInt('xa1b2c3d4')) |
       (xs:unsignedInt(.) eq dfdl:unsignedInt('xd4c3b2a1')) }"
       message="{ fn:concat(
                     'Magic number ',
                     dfdl:hexBinary(dfdl:unsignedInt(.)),
   ' was not 0xA1B2C3D4 (for bigEndian) or 0xD4C3B2A1 (for littleEndian).' }" />
   <dfdl:setVariable ref="ex:bOrd">{ xs:unsignedInt(.) }<dfdl:setVariable>
</xs:appinfo>
</xs:annotation>
</xs:element>

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Steve Hanson <smh@uk.ibm.com> wrote:
Mike, I think you meant:

       test="{ (xs:unsignedInt(.) eq dfdl:unsignedInt('xa1b2c3d4')) |
       (xs:unsignedInt(.) eq dfdl:unsignedInt('xd4c3b2a1')) }"

Regards

Steve Hanson
Architect, IBM Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848

From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org,
Date: 24/07/2013 16:46
Subject: [DFDL-WG] still no need for fn:error
Sent by: dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org

Here's the example as suggested by Jonathan of how to issue an error that I previously was suggesting needed fn:error. I'm convinced this is sufficient and we can avoid the need for fn:error now.

<xs:element name="magic_number" type="ex:uint32" dfdl:byteOrder="bigEndian">
<xs:annotation>
<xs:appinfo source="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/">
     <dfdl:assert
       test="{ (xs:unsignedInt(.) eq dfdl:unsignedInt('xa1b2c3d4')) |
       (xs:unsignedInt(.) eq dfdl:unsignedInt('xd4c3b2a1')) }"
       message="{ fn:concat(
                     'Magic number ',
                     dfdl:hexBinary(dfdl:unsignedInt(.)),
   ' was not 0xA1B2C3D4 (for bigEndian) or 0xD4C3B2A1 (for littleEndian).' }" />
   <dfdl:setVariable ref="ex:bOrd">{ xs:unsignedInt(.) }<dfdl:setVariable>
</xs:appinfo>
</xs:annotation>
</xs:element>

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