Got it. Thanks.

From more careful review, Miguel's original example is missing xmlns="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/" which would set his example ns to be the default ns, or add the tns prefix to the references.

...mikeb

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Suman Kalia <kalia@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
Mike -
>>>>    My read of the XML Schema spec indicates this QName is interpreted same as any other QName which is to say if it does not have a prefix part, then a default namespace     >>>> should be used if one is defined via xmlns="...".

This is true.. But the problem with the schema was that the PersonInfo type is defined in namespace http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/ . Without qualification of type in the reference, it would look into default namespace and would not find it  and hence the schema validation error..


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Tel: 905-413-3923 T/L 313-3923
Email: kalia@ca.ibm.com

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From:        Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To:        Suman Kalia/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA,
Cc:        Miguel Vieira <carlos.vieira@gmv.com>, dfdl-wg@ogf.org
Date:        08/31/2012 02:27 PM
Subject:        Re: [DFDL-WG] WS shcema/dfdl validation failing



Suman,

I was not sure about this requirement "when an element references a global type it must qualify it with the namespace".

Is this really required? My read of the XML Schema spec indicates this QName is interpreted same as any other QName which is to say if it does not have a prefix part, then a default namespace should be used if one is defined via xmlns="...".

I did not check for errata or anything like that.

...mikeb
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Suman Kalia <kalia@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
Mike - Not exactly right..     In the original schema, target namespace was defined and it had the prefix  tns. When an element references a global type, it must qualify it with the namespace.  
Miguel was getting the error because  without namespace qualification,   schema could not determine where personInfo was defined ..

CTDX1100E : XSD: Type reference '#name' is unresolved     …            line 13   XSD Schema Validation Problem

<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
      xmlns:dfdl="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/" targetNamespace="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/"
      xmlns:tns="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/"
      elementFormDefault="qualified" attributeFormDefault="unqualified">
 
      <xs:element name="employee" type="personinfo" />
      <xs:element name="student" type="personinfo" />

Miguel  ,

With the XSD error resolved,   now you are getting DFDL validation errors.  The presence of   "http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/"  namespace in the schema kicks of the DFDL validator..   We supplied General purpose format for DFDL to the work group which contains reasonable defaults for DFDL annotations for most uses cases for text representation  ..

Here is the document that describes how this format can be included in your schema.  
             http://www.ogf.org/Public_Comment_Docs/Documents/2012-04/gwdi-dfdl-example-format-v1.pdf

You should include /import the DFDLGeneralFormatDefinition.xsd in your schema depending on the target namespace   of your schema.  In your case it would be xs:include statement as the tns of your schema is same as the tns of the general purpose format.

Your schema would look like following  

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<xs:schema attributeFormDefault="unqualified"
        elementFormDefault="qualified" targetNamespace="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/"
        xmlns:dfdl="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/" xmlns:tns="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/"
        xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">

 
 <xs:include  schemaLocation="DFDLGeneralFormatDefinition.xsd"/>
 
 
        <xs:annotation>
                <xs:appinfo source="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/">
                        <dfdl:format ref="tns:GeneralFormat" />
                </xs:appinfo>
        </xs:annotation>

        <xs:element name="employee" type="tns:personinfo" />
        <xs:element name="student" type="tns:personinfo" />
        <xs:element name="member" type="tns:personinfo" />

        <xs:complexType name="personinfo">
                <xs:sequence>
                        <xs:element name="aPersonsName" type="tns:name" />
                </xs:sequence>
        </xs:complexType>

        <xs:complexType name="name">
                <xs:sequence>
                        <xs:element name="firstname" type="xs:string" />
                        <xs:element name="lastname" type="xs:string" />
                </xs:sequence>
        </xs:complexType>


</xs:schema>



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IBM Canada Lab
WMB Toolkit Architect and Development Lead
Tel: 905-413-3923 T/L 313-3923
Email: kalia@ca.ibm.com

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From:        Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To:        Miguel Vieira <carlos.vieira@gmv.com>,
Cc:        Suman Kalia/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA, "dfdl-wg@ogf.org" <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>, "dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org" <dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org>
Date:        08/31/2012 12:29 PM
Subject:        Re: [DFDL-WG] WS shcema/dfdl validation failing





Miguel,

I think your original schema as written is technically correct. You have XMLSchema namespace fully qualified everywhere. Only the target namespace is unqualified. Hence your type='...'  references from element to your type definitions should be interpreted in that target namespace.

(My rationale: See: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xmlschema-1-20041028/structures.html#src-qname)

But perhaps I am missing some nuance?

My own style has evolved to one where I make little or no use of unqualified names to avoid this issue entirely.

...mikeb





On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Miguel Vieira <carlos.vieira@gmv.com> wrote:
Hello!

 

But if I do that, I get:

 

CTDV1116E : DFDL property 'encoding' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:employee).  line 7    DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1116E : DFDL property 'encoding' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:member).  line 9       DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1116E : DFDL property 'encoding' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:student).  line 8        DFDL Validation

 

(…)

 

CTDV1118E : When 'sequenceKind' is 'ordered', DFDL property 'floating' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/type::p:name/model::sequence/schemaElement::p:firstname). line 19              DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1118E : When 'sequenceKind' is 'ordered', DFDL property 'floating' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/type::p:name/model::sequence/schemaElement::p:lastname). line 20               DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1118E : When 'sequenceKind' is 'ordered', DFDL property 'floating' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/type::p:personinfo/model::sequence/schemaElement::p:aPersonsName). line 13        DFDL Validation Problem

 

(…)

 

CTDV1202E : DFDL property 'leadingSkip' must be set. Object Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:employee). line 7     DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1202E : DFDL property 'leadingSkip' must be set. Object Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:member). line 9        DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1202E : DFDL property 'leadingSkip' must be set. Object Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:student). line 8         DFDL Validation Problem

 

(…)

 

CTDV1204E : DFDL property 'alignment' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:employee). line 7     DFDL Validation Problem

 

(…)

 

CTDV1238E : When type is string, DFDL property 'representation' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/type::p:name/model::sequence/schemaElement::p:firstname). line 19              DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1238E : When type is string, DFDL property 'representation' must be set. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/type::p:name/model::sequence/schemaElement::p:lastname). line 20               DFDL Validation Problem

 

(…)

 

CTDV1259E : DFDL property 'initiator' must either be set or be empty. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:employee).   line 7   DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1259E : DFDL property 'initiator' must either be set or be empty. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:member).   line 9      DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1259E : DFDL property 'initiator' must either be set or be empty. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/schemaElement::p:student).   line 8       DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1259E : DFDL property 'initiator' must either be set or be empty. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/type::p:name/model::sequence/schemaElement::p:firstname).   line 19            DFDL Validation Problem

CTDV1259E : DFDL property 'initiator' must either be set or be empty. Element: #xmlns(p="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/")xscd(/type::p:name/model::sequence/schemaElement::p:lastname).   line 20             DFDL Validation Problem

 

 

(…)

(…)

 

 

I don’t think I have to set all these properties, or do I?

 

 

From: Suman Kalia [mailto:kalia@ca.ibm.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 30 de Agosto de 2012 19:22
To: Miguel Vieira
Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org; dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org
Subject: Re: [DFDL-WG] WS shcema/dfdl validation failing

 

You have to qualify the type with namespace prefix as follows..

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
      xmlns:dfdl="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/" targetNamespace="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/"
      xmlns:tns="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/"
      elementFormDefault="qualified" attributeFormDefault="unqualified">
 
      <xs:element name="employee" type="tns:personinfo" />
      <xs:element name="student" type="tns:personinfo" />
      <xs:element name="member" type="tns:personinfo" />
 
      <xs:complexType name="personinfo">
            <xs:sequence>
                  <xs:element name="aPersonsName" type="tns:name"></xs:element>
            </xs:sequence>
      </xs:complexType>
 
      <xs:complexType name="name">
            <xs:sequence>
                  <xs:element name="firstname" type="xs:string" />
                  <xs:element name="lastname" type="xs:string" />
            </xs:sequence>
      </xs:complexType>
 




Suman Kalia
IBM Canada Lab
WMB Toolkit Architect and Development Lead
Tel: 905-413-3923 T/L 313-3923
Email: kalia@ca.ibm.com

For info on Message broker
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/zones/businessintegration/wmb.html





From:        Miguel Vieira <carlos.vieira@gmv.com>
To:        "dfdl-wg@ogf.org" <dfdl-wg@ogf.org>,
Date:        08/30/2012 01:03 PM
Subject:        [DFDL-WG] WS shcema/dfdl validation failing
Sent by:        dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org




Hi!
 
I have this simple schema:
 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
      xmlns:dfdl="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/" targetNamespace="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/"
      xmlns:tns="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/"
      elementFormDefault="qualified" attributeFormDefault="unqualified">
 
      <xs:element name="employee" type="personinfo" />
      <xs:element name="student" type="personinfo" />
      <xs:element name="member" type="personinfo" />
 
      <xs:complexType name="personinfo">
            <xs:sequence>
                  <xs:element name="aPersonsName" type="name"></xs:element>
            </xs:sequence>
      </xs:complexType>
 
      <xs:complexType name="name">
            <xs:sequence>
                  <xs:element name="firstname" type="xs:string" />
                  <xs:element name="lastname" type="xs:string" />
            </xs:sequence>
      </xs:complexType>
 
Message Broker gives me the following errors:
CTDX1100E : XSD: Type reference '#name' is unresolved               …            line 13   XSD Schema Validation Problem
CTDX1100E : XSD: Type reference '#personinfo' is unresolved     …            line 7     XSD Schema Validation Problem
CTDX1100E : XSD: Type reference '#personinfo' is unresolved     …            line 8     XSD Schema Validation Problem
CTDX1100E : XSD: Type reference '#personinfo' is unresolved     …            line 9     XSD Schema Validation Problem
 
 
In this model, all the elements and the complex type are given a name and are global. Shouldn’t it be possible to reference them?
 
If I remove the [xmlns:dfdl=http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/ targetNamespace=http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/dfdl-1.0/examples/] every thing is ok.
 
 
 


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