Investigation reveals that XML Schema 1.0 does not allow
seconds in time zones anyway.
So the spec and erratum 2.121 will be updated to state that for Z, ZZ,
ZZZ no seconds are allowed.
Public comment raised against spec -
http://redmine.ogf.org/boards/15/topics/24.
Regards
Steve Hanson
Architect, IBM Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair, OGF
DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
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From:
Steve Hanson/UK/IBM
To:
dfdl-wg@ogf.org,
Date:
17/09/2013 15:28
Subject:
Fw: Time zones
with seconds - Re: errata r14.1, and spec internal draft with these integrated
in - review #3
I think my suggestion of not supporting
time zones with optional seconds has put us into an inconsistent place.
I've just re-read the ICU SimpleDateFormat class entry for Z, reproduced
below. I had not spotted that Z, Z, ZZZ now also imply optional seconds,
and are equivalent to 'xxxx' which we said we don't support.
|
Z
|
1..3
| -0800
| The
ISO8601 basic format with hours, minutes and
optional seconds fields. The format is equivalent to
RFC 822 zone format (when optional seconds field is absent). This is equivalent
to the "xxxx" specifier.
|
|
4
| GMT-8:00
| The
long localized GMT format. This is equivalent to the "OOOO"
specifier.
|
|
5
| -08:00
-07:52:58
| The
ISO8601 extended format with hours, minutes and optional seconds
fields. The ISO8601 UTC indicator "Z" is used when local time
offset is 0. This is equivalent to the "XXXXX" specifier. |
We've always supported Z (as RFC 822)
so we can't now drop Z 1..3.
Regards
Steve Hanson
Architect, IBM Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair, OGF
DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
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Hanson/UK/IBM on 17/09/2013 15:21 -----
From:
Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To:
Steve Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB,
Date:
30/08/2013 00:25
Subject:
Re: Time zones
with seconds - Re: errata r14.1, and spec internal draft with these integrated
in - review #3
Made this change.
Also, updated Errata 2.3 (Unsure about the references at the top of that
errata description.
Mike Beckerle | OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | Tresys Technology
| www.tresys.com
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Steve Hanson <smh@uk.ibm.com>
wrote:
Agreed that the ICU symbol combinations
below that include optional seconds will not be supported in DFDL 1.0.
Erratum 2.121 will be updated.
Regards
Steve Hanson
Architect, IBM Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair, OGF
DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
From: Mike
Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To: Steve
Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB,
Cc: "Cranford,
Jonathan W." <jcranford@mitre.org>,
Suman Kalia <kalia@ca.ibm.com>,
Tim Kimber/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Date: 24/08/2013
04:04
Subject: Time
zones with seconds - Re: errata r14.1, and spec internal draft with these
integrated in - review #3
One question - do we really need to support
time zones with seconds? If we think this is not needed then we could drop
ZZZZZ, xxxx, xxxxx, XXXX, XXXXX, and stick with standard ISO8601.
I would be happy to remove these, and I have no clue the meaning or use
of a time zone with seconds.
I have edited in the other ICU calendar pattern review comments, but this
is outstanding. Let's close on this on next WG call.
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