Yes, agree.
Regards
Steve Hanson
Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair, OGF
DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
From:
Suman Kalia <kalia@ca.ibm.com>
To:
Steve Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Cc:
dfdl-wg@ogf.org, Mike
Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
Date:
05/12/2011 15:00
Subject:
Re: [DFDL-WG]
short form on xs:schema?
Steve - Yes they should be identical..
My point was that the short form annotation on xs:schema should not
just be restricted to a handful set of properties but all the dfdl properties
that could be specified on the default format..
Suman Kalia
IBM Canada Lab
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From: Steve
Hanson <smh@uk.ibm.com>
To: Suman
Kalia/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org,
Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
Date: 12/05/2011
08:57 AM
Subject: Re:
[DFDL-WG] short form on xs:schema?
Sorry Suman I don't understand what you are saying. The following
are identical.
<xs:schema dfdl:ref="block" dfdl:encoding="ASCII"
...>
</xs:schema>
<xs:schema ...>
<xs:annotation>
<xs:appinfo="www.ogf.or/dfdl/1.0">
<dfdl:format ref="block" dfdl:encoding="ASCII"
/>
</xs:appinfo>
</xs:annotation>
</xs:schema>
Regards
Steve Hanson
Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair, OGF
DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
From: Suman
Kalia <kalia@ca.ibm.com>
To: Steve
Hanson/UK/IBM@IBMGB
Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org,
Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
Date: 05/12/2011
12:28
Subject: Re:
[DFDL-WG] short form on xs:schema?
On another note, I am also looking at the real usefulness of providing
this annotation in the short form on xs:schema as most of the time users
would need a default format at the schema level referring either to DFDLFormat
( General purpose DFDL format definition) and/or containing defaults
for other attributes.
We may want to provide for completeness but the same argument would hold
for other dfdl attributes..
Suman Kalia
IBM Canada Lab
WMB Toolkit Architect and Development Lead
Tel: 905-413-3923 T/L 313-3923
Email: kalia@ca.ibm.com
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From: Steve
Hanson <smh@uk.ibm.com>
To: Suman
Kalia/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org,
Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
Date: 12/05/2011
04:49 AM
Subject: Re:
[DFDL-WG] short form on xs:schema?
Suman
That is exactly what Mike is suggesting. If you look at Table 7 in the
spec (section 7.1) and the wording about short form in section 7.1.3.3
then the natural assumption is that DFDL attributes on xs:schema would
be allowed as the short form of the anonymous dfdl:format annotation's
properties. If a property occurs in both short form and attribute/element
form that is a schema definition error as per section 7.1.3.
So, are there any reasons why this should not be allowed? I can recall
this being discussed in the past but I don't remember a conclusion. The
only reason I can think of is that it would easy for a human reader to
miss DFDL properties on xs:schema because of all the namespace attributes
that typically occur there. But that's just a formatting/style thing.
Regards
Steve Hanson
Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair, OGF
DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK
smh@uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848
From: Suman
Kalia <kalia@ca.ibm.com>
To: Mike
Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
Cc: dfdl-wg@ogf.org,
dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org
Date: 05/12/2011
00:55
Subject: Re:
[DFDL-WG] short form on xs:schema?
Sent by: dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org
One way to view this annotation would be as if it is defined on the default
format at the xs:schema.. Question would be what if dfdl:format
at xs:schema also has dfdl:encoding specified - which one would win ?..
Suman Kalia
IBM Canada Lab
WMB Toolkit Architect and Development Lead
Tel: 905-413-3923 T/L 313-3923
Email: kalia@ca.ibm.com
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From: Mike
Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com>
To: dfdl-wg@ogf.org
Date: 12/02/2011
05:46 PM
Subject: [DFDL-WG]
short form on xs:schema?
Sent by: dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org
I don't know that we ever talked about this.
Most schema constructs support short form
<xs:element ... dfdl:encoding="utf-8" />
Does the xs:schema itself support short form for the "default"
format properties?
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="...."
dfdl:encoding="utf-8">
...
</xs:schema>
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