I think we will have to go back to the XPath function spec and see what that says. https://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions-31/#func-count. If fn:count(.) returns the same as dfdl:occursIndex() then what is the point of the latter? If I recall it was added to allow a reference from one array to the same occurrence in another array, eg, dfdl:length="{/doc/lengths[dfdl:occursIndex(.)]}" Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh@uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl@gmail.com> To: DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg@ogf.org> Date: 08/10/2019 17:06 Subject: [DFDL-WG] recent puzzlers on fn:count and fn:exists Sent by: "dfdl-wg" <dfdl-wg-bounces@ogf.org> These questions came up recently from daffodil users. I know what Daffodil will return here, but the spec is not clear to me as to whether that's the right answer or is even defined. Can an array count itself? Like this: <xs:element name="name" type="xs:string" maxOccurs="unbounded"> <xs:annotation> <xs:appinfo source="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/"> <dfdl:discriminator test="{ fn:count(.) le 5 }" /> </xs:appinfo> </xs:annotation> </xs:element> The above can be reformulated by calling instead of fn:count, dfdl:occursIndex(), and that's definitely well defined in this case. But what does fn:count return in this case? Daffodil will return the same value as the occursIndex, because it will have speculatively attached the array element to the infoset at the time the fn:count function is being evaluated. But I don't know if that is the right answer or if we should simply say that fn:count is not defined in this case. Similarly, does an array element exist when it is being parsed? <xs:element name="name" type="xs:string" maxOccurs="unbounded"> <xs:annotation> <xs:appinfo source="http://www.ogf.org/dfdl/"> <dfdl:discriminator test="{ fn:exists(.) }" /> </xs:appinfo> </xs:annotation> </xs:element> Mike Beckerle | OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | Tresys Technology | www.tresys.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy -- dfdl-wg mailing list dfdl-wg@ogf.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ogf.org_mailman_listinfo_dfdl-2Dwg&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=AJa9ThEymJXYnOqu84mJuw&m=h8SgHkWJevttQp70MQEZX_23hhQ_6V66GZ8ey9-FWBE&s=vag_d_04v_XiRqqMqflEzyOWRiGELVj3YN8xW9zxKy8&e= Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU