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Latest OGF DFDL WG Call Minutes
by Steve Hanson 29 Oct '20

29 Oct '20

Please find minutes from the latest call at https://redmine.ogf.org/projects/dfdl-wg/news Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday

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Agenda for OGF DFDL WG Call
by Steve Hanson 28 Oct '20

28 Oct '20

Please find agenda for next call on Redmine at https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13627?download= Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU

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Agenda for OGF DFDL WG Call
by Steve Hanson 15 Oct '20

15 Oct '20

Today's WG call is replaced by a DFDL 1.0 draft spec review session, involving Mike & Steve. (Saves me having to create agenda & issue minutes :) Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890

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Re: [DFDL-WG] DFDL Spec Working Draft r29
by Steve Hanson 06 Oct '20

06 Oct '20

Mike I've completed the review. To speed things up, are you around this Thursday at the usual DFDL WG call time (4pm UK) and we can go through the new comments (section 9.4 onwards)? Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday From: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM To: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl(a)gmail.com> Cc: DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg(a)ogf.org> Date: 01/10/2020 18:28 Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [DFDL-WG] DFDL Spec Working Draft r29 Mike Good review session on the WG call today. Updates to comments made during the call added. [attachment "gwdrp-dfdl-v1.0.5-r29-changes-tracked-SMH-comments.odt" deleted by Steve Hanson/UK/IBM] Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday From: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM To: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl(a)gmail.com> Cc: DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg(a)ogf.org> Date: 01/10/2020 15:53 Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [DFDL-WG] DFDL Spec Working Draft r29 Mike Have reviewed up to start of 9.3. Comments added. Note I used LibreOffice. We can start going through them on call today if you like. [attachment "gwdrp-dfdl-v1.0.5-r29-changes-tracked-SMH-comments.odt" deleted by Steve Hanson/UK/IBM] Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl(a)gmail.com> To: DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg(a)ogf.org> Date: 29/09/2020 23:29 Subject: [EXTERNAL] [DFDL-WG] DFDL Spec Working Draft r29 Sent by: "dfdl-wg" <dfdl-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org> Steve H., and DFDL Workgroup, I have uploaded version r29 of the DFDL spec as MS-Word ".docx" This has all the comments from the external review by Martin Westhead applied to it, including numerous forward references fixed. In general the material flows better (IMHO) and is better organized with a number of out-of-place discussions/paragraphs repositioned to be in a better place with other related material. I believe this is a substantially better document now. I have tried to mark the moves of sections of text with comment bubbles. I'm sure there are some missing however. Not every comment bubble is resolved as yet. Comment bubbles marked TBD mean a change is still expected or an issue to be resolved. Some of these are calls for new material such as new clarifying examples, and we may or may not decide to put them in. Comment bubbles marked "Note" are FYI for read/review and may not involve any further change. Basically, it says "Note" if I currently think the issue that motivated the change has been resolved, but you may have a different opinion. You will find two variants of the document: one has MS-Word change tracking, the other has all changes accepted. When sections were renumbered I had to turn off MS-Word change tracking. So you'll notice that even in the track-changes version, renumberings are (mostly) not marked as tracked changes. It is my hope that after another read-through the renumbering and reorganization are accepted and we can go forward from here using the all-changes-accepted version, though I realize in review it may be important to see what text has been deleted/inserted via the change-tracked variant. It is also my hope that we are getting close to a draft ready for public review. Saving reviewer/proofread time is the most important thing, so you may print it out, and redline it with red ink if you wish, and ship the result to me via courier/fedex. Or if possible you can PDF it, and can virtual red-ink it with a tablet computer/stylus, and e-send the PDF to me. This is the model Martin Westhead used when reviewing, and it worked well for me. But basically, I will accept feedback/review in any form: MS-Word comment bubbles are fine, as is red-ink on paper. One possibly useful technique: If you open the "tracked" variant in MS-Word, and from the review tab, choose "Simple Markup" as the change display mode, you will get just margin side-bars marking where changes are, and the comment bubbles, but otherwise not too much change noise. You can click on any given sidebar and it will switch to "All Markup" mode showing you the detailed tracked changes, but you can switch back to "Simple Markup" after reviewing the details. I have started keeping these files on the OGF Github under docs/working-drafts, they are also on redmine in the current documents. OGF Github DFDL repository has URLs: https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL.git or if you prefer ssh: git@github.com:OpenGridForum/DFDL.git Redmine the two docs are: https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13621?download= https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13622?download= -mikeb Mike Beckerle | OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy -- dfdl-wg mailing list dfdl-wg(a)ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dfdl-wg Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU

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Latest OGF DFDL WG Call Minutes
by Steve Hanson 06 Oct '20

06 Oct '20

Please find minutes from the latest call at https://redmine.ogf.org/projects/dfdl-wg/news Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration Architect, IBM DFDL, Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890

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Re: [DFDL-WG] DFDL Spec Working Draft r29
by Steve Hanson 01 Oct '20

01 Oct '20

Mike Good review session on the WG call today. Updates to comments made during the call added. Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday From: Steve Hanson/UK/IBM To: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl(a)gmail.com> Cc: DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg(a)ogf.org> Date: 01/10/2020 15:53 Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [DFDL-WG] DFDL Spec Working Draft r29 Mike Have reviewed up to start of 9.3. Comments added. Note I used LibreOffice. We can start going through them on call today if you like. [attachment "gwdrp-dfdl-v1.0.5-r29-changes-tracked-SMH-comments.odt" deleted by Steve Hanson/UK/IBM] Regards Steve Hanson IBM Hybrid Integration, Hursley, UK Architect, IBM DFDL Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group smh(a)uk.ibm.com tel:+44-1962-815848 mob:+44-7717-378890 Note: I work Tuesday to Friday From: Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle.dfdl(a)gmail.com> To: DFDL-WG <dfdl-wg(a)ogf.org> Date: 29/09/2020 23:29 Subject: [EXTERNAL] [DFDL-WG] DFDL Spec Working Draft r29 Sent by: "dfdl-wg" <dfdl-wg-bounces(a)ogf.org> Steve H., and DFDL Workgroup, I have uploaded version r29 of the DFDL spec as MS-Word ".docx" This has all the comments from the external review by Martin Westhead applied to it, including numerous forward references fixed. In general the material flows better (IMHO) and is better organized with a number of out-of-place discussions/paragraphs repositioned to be in a better place with other related material. I believe this is a substantially better document now. I have tried to mark the moves of sections of text with comment bubbles. I'm sure there are some missing however. Not every comment bubble is resolved as yet. Comment bubbles marked TBD mean a change is still expected or an issue to be resolved. Some of these are calls for new material such as new clarifying examples, and we may or may not decide to put them in. Comment bubbles marked "Note" are FYI for read/review and may not involve any further change. Basically, it says "Note" if I currently think the issue that motivated the change has been resolved, but you may have a different opinion. You will find two variants of the document: one has MS-Word change tracking, the other has all changes accepted. When sections were renumbered I had to turn off MS-Word change tracking. So you'll notice that even in the track-changes version, renumberings are (mostly) not marked as tracked changes. It is my hope that after another read-through the renumbering and reorganization are accepted and we can go forward from here using the all-changes-accepted version, though I realize in review it may be important to see what text has been deleted/inserted via the change-tracked variant. It is also my hope that we are getting close to a draft ready for public review. Saving reviewer/proofread time is the most important thing, so you may print it out, and redline it with red ink if you wish, and ship the result to me via courier/fedex. Or if possible you can PDF it, and can virtual red-ink it with a tablet computer/stylus, and e-send the PDF to me. This is the model Martin Westhead used when reviewing, and it worked well for me. But basically, I will accept feedback/review in any form: MS-Word comment bubbles are fine, as is red-ink on paper. One possibly useful technique: If you open the "tracked" variant in MS-Word, and from the review tab, choose "Simple Markup" as the change display mode, you will get just margin side-bars marking where changes are, and the comment bubbles, but otherwise not too much change noise. You can click on any given sidebar and it will switch to "All Markup" mode showing you the detailed tracked changes, but you can switch back to "Simple Markup" after reviewing the details. I have started keeping these files on the OGF Github under docs/working-drafts, they are also on redmine in the current documents. OGF Github DFDL repository has URLs: https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL.git or if you prefer ssh: git@github.com:OpenGridForum/DFDL.git Redmine the two docs are: https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13621?download= https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13622?download= -mikeb Mike Beckerle | OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy -- dfdl-wg mailing list dfdl-wg(a)ogf.org https://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dfdl-wg Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU

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DFDL Spec Working Draft r29
by Mike Beckerle 01 Oct '20

01 Oct '20

Steve H., and DFDL Workgroup, I have uploaded version r29 of the DFDL spec as MS-Word ".docx" This has all the comments from the external review by Martin Westhead applied to it, including numerous forward references fixed. In general the material flows better (IMHO) and is better organized with a number of out-of-place discussions/paragraphs repositioned to be in a better place with other related material. I believe this is a substantially better document now. I have tried to mark the moves of sections of text with comment bubbles. I'm sure there are some missing however. Not every comment bubble is resolved as yet. - Comment bubbles marked TBD mean a change is still expected or an issue to be resolved. Some of these are calls for new material such as new clarifying examples, and we may or may not decide to put them in. - Comment bubbles marked "Note" are FYI for read/review and may not involve any further change. Basically, it says "Note" if I currently think the issue that motivated the change has been resolved, but you may have a different opinion. You will find two variants of the document: one has MS-Word change tracking, the other has all changes accepted. When sections were renumbered I had to turn off MS-Word change tracking. So you'll notice that even in the track-changes version, renumberings are (mostly) not marked as tracked changes. It is my hope that after another read-through the renumbering and reorganization are accepted and we can go forward from here using the all-changes-accepted version, though I realize in review it may be important to see what text has been deleted/inserted via the change-tracked variant. It is also my hope that we are getting close to a draft ready for public review. Saving reviewer/proofread time is the most important thing, so you may print it out, and redline it with red ink if you wish, and ship the result to me via courier/fedex. Or if possible you can PDF it, and can virtual red-ink it with a tablet computer/stylus, and e-send the PDF to me. This is the model Martin Westhead used when reviewing, and it worked well for me. But basically, I will accept feedback/review in any form: MS-Word comment bubbles are fine, as is red-ink on paper. One possibly useful technique: If you open the "tracked" variant in MS-Word, and from the review tab, choose "Simple Markup" as the change display mode, you will get just margin side-bars marking where changes are, and the comment bubbles, but otherwise not too much change noise. You can click on any given sidebar and it will switch to "All Markup" mode showing you the detailed tracked changes, but you can switch back to "Simple Markup" after reviewing the details. I have started keeping these files on the OGF Github under docs/working-drafts, they are also on redmine in the current documents. OGF Github DFDL repository has URLs: https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL.git or if you prefer ssh: git@github.com:OpenGridForum/DFDL.git Redmine the two docs are: https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13621?download= https://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13622?download= -mikeb Mike Beckerle | OGF DFDL Workgroup Co-Chair | Owl Cyber Defense | www.owlcyberdefense.com Please note: Contributions to the DFDL Workgroup's email discussions are subject to the OGF Intellectual Property Policy <http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php>

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