Re: [dcifed-wg] DCIFed status
Hey Gary, putting your last message to the list as well... Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz:
The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work
Most definitely.
NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also.
Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration.
I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community
That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this?
I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus.
Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail. Best, Alexander
Alex, Gary, et al., I strongly encourage a short write-up on OCCI/CDMI/OVF. These three standards were mentioned as a group multiple times at the NIST Cloud Standards Summit (both Alan and I attended). This group also appears in the NIST Cloud Standards Roadmap -- the first complete draft should be available this June. I can't promise this material would get into the Roadmap, but we need to make the strongest possible, defensible recommendations wrt existing and emerging standards for cloud computing. Wrt Use Cases -- and broad use case requirements -- many sets of cloud use cases have been compiled, even among the NIST Cloud WGs. If DCIFed wants to compile another set of use cases, I would recommend taking some time to at least review and comment on the other sets that have been compiled. I agree with the use case requirements that Gary mentions in his earlier email. I would add, though, that Vivek Kundra has said that _document management_, i.e., document workflow, is the single largest use case for the US gov. (This is probably true for all governments!) It also seems to me that secure access through mobile devices, i.e., smartphones, is also high on the list. --Craig On 5/30/11 7:48 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote:
Hey Gary,
putting your last message to the list as well...
Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz:
The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work
Most definitely.
NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also.
Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration.
I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community
That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this?
I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus.
Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail.
Best, Alexander _______________________________________________ dcifed-wg mailing list dcifed-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcifed-wg
Andy and I have done this and are in the processes of making the last changes - we'll have a document describing OVF/OCCI/CDMI integration very soon. Cheers, -Thijs -----Original Message----- From: dcifed-wg-bounces@ogf.org on behalf of Craig Lee Sent: Mon 30.05.2011 19:46 To: dcifed-wg@ogf.org; alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de; Gary Mazz Cc: Craig A Lee Subject: Re: [dcifed-wg] DCIFed status Alex, Gary, et al., I strongly encourage a short write-up on OCCI/CDMI/OVF. These three standards were mentioned as a group multiple times at the NIST Cloud Standards Summit (both Alan and I attended). This group also appears in the NIST Cloud Standards Roadmap -- the first complete draft should be available this June. I can't promise this material would get into the Roadmap, but we need to make the strongest possible, defensible recommendations wrt existing and emerging standards for cloud computing. Wrt Use Cases -- and broad use case requirements -- many sets of cloud use cases have been compiled, even among the NIST Cloud WGs. If DCIFed wants to compile another set of use cases, I would recommend taking some time to at least review and comment on the other sets that have been compiled. I agree with the use case requirements that Gary mentions in his earlier email. I would add, though, that Vivek Kundra has said that _document management_, i.e., document workflow, is the single largest use case for the US gov. (This is probably true for all governments!) It also seems to me that secure access through mobile devices, i.e., smartphones, is also high on the list. --Craig On 5/30/11 7:48 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote:
Hey Gary,
putting your last message to the list as well...
Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz:
The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work
Most definitely.
NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also.
Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration.
I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community
That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this?
I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus.
Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail.
Best, Alexander _______________________________________________ dcifed-wg mailing list dcifed-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcifed-wg
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Hi, I working on a taxonomy focusing on asset management aggregation. CDMI is well on its way identifying a class of assets and a taxonomy for describing policies pertaining to deployment strategies. OVF, can be considered a XML representation of a DMFT CIM profile. This is important positioning statement maturing OGF/DMTF integration. However, OVF is only an XML interchange format for VM deployments. A paper on synergies between OCCI/CDMI/OVF is may be a little weak at this point, especially since there is no commitment from the DMTF of moving forward with this initiative. I have released a presentation on bonding OVF to CDMI, I had also placed one of my developers working on the implementation part time in April. The presentation was posted on the OCCI mailing list a few weeks ago. It included a mapping of OVF elements to OCCI resources as well as a list of unreconciled issues pertaining to incongruous behavioral models. There are several unresolved issues I had wanted to get addressed in Boulder, but exploring OGF/DMTF logistics, alignment of use cases, fit into road maps and DMTF jockeying for meaningless political control of activities, interfered with any practical progress on the implementation. BTW, please exclude Winston Bumpus from any statements about the DMTF, Winston is always the most gracious. Just as a matter of historical record, the discussion of bringing OVF into the OCCI offering started over a year ago last year between Mark Carlson and myself. Although there had been some preliminary discussions in the OCCI working group, the meeting with Mark Carlson resulted in me committing any excess AlloyCloud funding towards that goal. One major issue inhibiting progress was the state of the OCCI specifications. I'll restart work on the OVF project as funding/resources becomes available. I hope to have a working OVF implementation as a well as a new c++ OCCI code and CDMI support in OpenNebula by the end of this year. Back to DCI-Fed We can take a few strategies for use cases: 1) Develop our own... 2) Leverage use cases referenced in other intiatives and stds we are considering for inclusion in DCI-Fed 3) Refer to documented best practice white papers and case studies. Before we jump in with two feet and having all oars driving in a direction, we need to have a meeting on vision and outcome, just to make sure we are all on the same page. @Craig, do you have a reference on Vivek's document management pitch ? -gary On 5/30/2011 11:46 AM, Craig Lee wrote:
Alex, Gary, et al.,
I strongly encourage a short write-up on OCCI/CDMI/OVF. These three standards were mentioned as a group multiple times at the NIST Cloud Standards Summit (both Alan and I attended). This group also appears in the NIST Cloud Standards Roadmap -- the first complete draft should be available this June. I can't promise this material would get into the Roadmap, but we need to make the strongest possible, defensible recommendations wrt existing and emerging standards for cloud computing.
Wrt Use Cases -- and broad use case requirements -- many sets of cloud use cases have been compiled, even among the NIST Cloud WGs. If DCIFed wants to compile another set of use cases, I would recommend taking some time to at least review and comment on the other sets that have been compiled. I agree with the use case requirements that Gary mentions in his earlier email. I would add, though, that Vivek Kundra has said that _document management_, i.e., document workflow, is the single largest use case for the US gov. (This is probably true for all governments!) It also seems to me that secure access through mobile devices, i.e., smartphones, is also high on the list.
--Craig
On 5/30/11 7:48 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote:
Hey Gary,
putting your last message to the list as well...
Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz:
The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work
Most definitely.
NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also.
Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration.
I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community
That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this?
I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus.
Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail.
Best, Alexander _______________________________________________ dcifed-wg mailing list dcifed-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcifed-wg
On 5/30/11 1:33 PM, Gary Mazz wrote:
Hi, ...snip...
@Craig, do you have a reference on Vivek's document management pitch ?
It was verbal comment in his office. I'll look for a written reference. --Craig
-gary
On 5/30/2011 11:46 AM, Craig Lee wrote:
Alex, Gary, et al.,
I strongly encourage a short write-up on OCCI/CDMI/OVF. These three standards were mentioned as a group multiple times at the NIST Cloud Standards Summit (both Alan and I attended). This group also appears in the NIST Cloud Standards Roadmap -- the first complete draft should be available this June. I can't promise this material would get into the Roadmap, but we need to make the strongest possible, defensible recommendations wrt existing and emerging standards for cloud computing.
Wrt Use Cases -- and broad use case requirements -- many sets of cloud use cases have been compiled, even among the NIST Cloud WGs. If DCIFed wants to compile another set of use cases, I would recommend taking some time to at least review and comment on the other sets that have been compiled. I agree with the use case requirements that Gary mentions in his earlier email. I would add, though, that Vivek Kundra has said that _document management_, i.e., document workflow, is the single largest use case for the US gov. (This is probably true for all governments!) It also seems to me that secure access through mobile devices, i.e., smartphones, is also high on the list.
--Craig
On 5/30/11 7:48 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote:
Hey Gary,
putting your last message to the list as well...
Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz:
The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work
Most definitely.
NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also.
Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration.
I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community
That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this?
I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus.
Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail.
Best, Alexander _______________________________________________ dcifed-wg mailing list dcifed-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcifed-wg
Gary, Craig, Am 30.05.2011 um 22:33 schrieb Gary Mazz: --8<-- snip --8<--
A paper on synergies between OCCI/CDMI/OVF is may be a little weak at this point, especially since there is no commitment from the DMTF of moving forward with this initiative.
Well, it depends on what kind of paper you think about. I'd be very happy to see this as a scientific publication somewhere. This would lift the endorsement requirement from DMTF, and still be something that can be referenced. @Thijs, Andy: what do you think? Best, Alexander
On 5/30/2011 11:46 AM, Craig Lee wrote:
Alex, Gary, et al.,
I strongly encourage a short write-up on OCCI/CDMI/OVF. These three standards were mentioned as a group multiple times at the NIST Cloud Standards Summit (both Alan and I attended). This group also appears in the NIST Cloud Standards Roadmap -- the first complete draft should be available this June. I can't promise this material would get into the Roadmap, but we need to make the strongest possible, defensible recommendations wrt existing and emerging standards for cloud computing.
Wrt Use Cases -- and broad use case requirements -- many sets of cloud use cases have been compiled, even among the NIST Cloud WGs. If DCIFed wants to compile another set of use cases, I would recommend taking some time to at least review and comment on the other sets that have been compiled. I agree with the use case requirements that Gary mentions in his earlier email. I would add, though, that Vivek Kundra has said that _document management_, i.e., document workflow, is the single largest use case for the US gov. (This is probably true for all governments!) It also seems to me that secure access through mobile devices, i.e., smartphones, is also high on the list.
--Craig
On 5/30/11 7:48 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote:
Hey Gary,
putting your last message to the list as well...
Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz:
The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work
Most definitely.
NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also.
Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration.
I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community
That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this?
I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus.
Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail.
Best, Alexander _______________________________________________ dcifed-wg mailing list dcifed-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcifed-wg
Hey Gary, Am 30.05.2011 um 22:33 schrieb Gary Mazz: --8<-- snip --8<--
Back to DCI-Fed
We can take a few strategies for use cases:
1) Develop our own...
Nope. I don't think use cases should come from within the working group if they are not endorsed by any external project. That said, all group members (also those "only" on the mailing list) are more than welcome to submit use cases, even if they are simple. DCIfed is in the stage of trying to find focus.
2) Leverage use cases referenced in other intiatives and stds we are considering for inclusion in DCI-Fed
IIRC, the following points are floating around for a while now: - the original "DGSI" use case (federation of traditional, community-focused Grid environments) - the "EGI" use case with OCCI + OVF + CDMI (maybe something else here?) + Federated Security - the "Gary" use case (see other mails) While DGSI is the most advanced (specs have been written in the project and most problems have been cleared out), it also is the one with the least impact, addressing a very specific problem closely related to research infrastructures. The EGI use case, in turn, is the one moving forward fastest and being very close to what has been done in the last months by Thijs and Andy within OCCI anyway. Alas, I am not aware how much interest comes from Steven and David to really push this forward in DCIfed (they have published an "EGI" document on this already, see https://www.egi.eu/indico/getFile.py/access?resId=0&materialId=1&confId=415). Regarding the "Gary" use case, we can just discuss this on the list. With respect to Craig's proposal to compile use cases, I fully agree. I'd therefore propose that we collect the "DCIfed internal" use cases (i.e. the ones that have been submitted to the group already or will be submitted in the future), and align them with the ones mentioned by Craig. Taking up Vivek's document management workflow is surely a good idea; we'd still need someone to endorse it in the group, though.
3) Refer to documented best practice white papers and case studies.
I'd rather use this for reference purposes in any upcoming document.
Before we jump in with two feet and having all oars driving in a direction, we need to have a meeting on vision and outcome, just to make sure we are all on the same page.
Agreed. I will schedule a session for the upcoming OGF in Salt Lake City in mid of July. It's co-located with TeraGrid this year, so there should be enough reason to come. Best, Alexander
On 5/30/2011 11:46 AM, Craig Lee wrote:
Alex, Gary, et al.,
I strongly encourage a short write-up on OCCI/CDMI/OVF. These three standards were mentioned as a group multiple times at the NIST Cloud Standards Summit (both Alan and I attended). This group also appears in the NIST Cloud Standards Roadmap -- the first complete draft should be available this June. I can't promise this material would get into the Roadmap, but we need to make the strongest possible, defensible recommendations wrt existing and emerging standards for cloud computing.
Wrt Use Cases -- and broad use case requirements -- many sets of cloud use cases have been compiled, even among the NIST Cloud WGs. If DCIFed wants to compile another set of use cases, I would recommend taking some time to at least review and comment on the other sets that have been compiled. I agree with the use case requirements that Gary mentions in his earlier email. I would add, though, that Vivek Kundra has said that _document management_, i.e., document workflow, is the single largest use case for the US gov. (This is probably true for all governments!) It also seems to me that secure access through mobile devices, i.e., smartphones, is also high on the list.
--Craig
On 5/30/11 7:48 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote:
Hey Gary,
putting your last message to the list as well...
Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz:
The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work
Most definitely.
NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also.
Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration.
I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community
That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this?
I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus.
Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail.
Best, Alexander _______________________________________________ dcifed-wg mailing list dcifed-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcifed-wg
Hi Al, Comments In line... On 6/7/2011 3:46 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote: > Hey Gary, > > Am 30.05.2011 um 22:33 schrieb Gary Mazz: > > --8<-- snip --8<-- > >> Back to DCI-Fed >> >> We can take a few strategies for use cases: >> >> 1) Develop our own... > Nope. I don't think use cases should come from within the working group if they are not endorsed by any external project. That said, all group members (also those "only" on the mailing list) are more than welcome to submit use cases, even if they are simple. DCIfed is in the stage of trying to find focus. I think there are two ways of looking at internally developed use cases 1) Create a Use Case(s) to support the overall vision of the project, where other use cases fall short 2) Create Use Case that will be able to create new opportunities for DCI-Fed adopter, even if no one is doing them today. This is where innovation is interjected into the process, otherwise we end up just rehashing old models >> 2) Leverage use cases referenced in other intiatives and stds we are considering for inclusion in DCI-Fed > IIRC, the following points are floating around for a while now: > > - the original "DGSI" use case (federation of traditional, community-focused Grid environments) Agreed > - the "EGI" use case with OCCI + OVF + CDMI (maybe something else here?) + Federated Security Maybe I'm missing something ?? I don't see the value proposition at this level, maybe OCCI and CDMI at the next level of detail. > - the "Gary" use case (see other mails) These are not "my" use cases, but requirements of a $40B IT consumer in the US Fed > While DGSI is the most advanced (specs have been written in the project and most problems have been cleared out), it also is the one with the least impact, addressing a very specific problem closely related to research infrastructures. DGSI has some very good specifications, but is not a clear solution. It does require a rather costly integration, tough to justify in the current economy. > The EGI use case, in turn, is the one moving forward fastest and being very close to what has been done in the last months by Thijs and Andy within OCCI anyway. Alas, I am not aware how much interest comes from Steven and David to really push this forward in DCIfed (they have published an "EGI" document on this already, see https://www.egi.eu/indico/getFile.py/access?resId=0&materialId=1&confId=415). Regarding the "Gary" use case, we can just discuss this on the list. I like this EGI document. It the first that ca be described as a true reference architecture for deploying VMs in the Grid. I like the concept of the message bus, but it need to be broken out in more detail. The editorial mentions the bus may be a series of brokers, which makes them VOs. I believe part of DCIfed is to provide composition and orchestration between VOs participating in on the message EGI message bus. Maybe a service composition model, ala TINA/CORBA/SOA. EGI is only one use case. We need to also look at the overall requirements relevant for cloud computing. > With respect to Craig's proposal to compile use cases, I fully agree. I'd therefore propose that we collect the "DCIfed internal" use cases (i.e. the ones that have been submitted to the group already or will be submitted in the future), and align them with the ones mentioned by Craig. Agreed. I posted the US Fed requirements to kick start the work... as the first entries to the list. I'm compiling a list of other specifications that may prove valuable to the possible approaches we can take. > Taking up Vivek's document management workflow is surely a good idea; we'd still need someone to endorse it in the group, though. > The document management work flow is not as easy as one would like to believe, especially for the US Fed. There are several types of document management work flows deployed in the Fed. Some are mandated by law while other are entrenched in enterprise architectures, none easily changed. The other issue with the document management work flow is different agencies have individual document managed states and work flows, each optimized for the organization's mission. Some work flows are extra-organizational, between agencies and departments. What is needed is a scheme for managing documents by separating the document artifact from the work flow process. Then artifacts can be shared across multiple work flows with each work flow maintaining its document state applicable for the appropriate mission. This case is why composition and orchestration is incredibly important for DCIfed. (IMO) >> 3) Refer to documented best practice white papers and case studies. > I'd rather use this for reference purposes in any upcoming document. Agreed-- and the intent >> Before we jump in with two feet and having all oars driving in a direction, we need to have a meeting on vision and outcome, just to make sure we are all on the same page. > Agreed. I will schedule a session for the upcoming OGF in Salt Lake City in mid of July. It's co-located with TeraGrid this year, so there should be enough reason to come. I'll try to make Salt Lake. Funding is becoming an issue again. > Best, > Alexander > >> On 5/30/2011 11:46 AM, Craig Lee wrote: >>> Alex, Gary, et al., >>> >>> I strongly encourage a short write-up on OCCI/CDMI/OVF. These three standards were mentioned as a group multiple times at the NIST Cloud Standards Summit (both Alan and I attended). This group also appears in the NIST Cloud Standards Roadmap -- the first complete draft should be available this June. I can't promise this material would get into the Roadmap, but we need to make the strongest possible, defensible recommendations wrt existing and emerging standards for cloud computing. >>> >>> Wrt Use Cases -- and broad use case requirements -- many sets of cloud use cases have been compiled, even among the NIST Cloud WGs. If DCIFed wants to compile another set of use cases, I would recommend taking some time to at least review and comment on the other sets that have been compiled. I agree with the use case requirements that Gary mentions in his earlier email. I would add, though, that Vivek Kundra has said that _document management_, i.e., document workflow, is the single largest use case for the US gov. (This is probably true for all governments!) It also seems to me that secure access through mobile devices, i.e., smartphones, is also high on the list. >>> >>> --Craig >>> >>> On 5/30/11 7:48 AM, alexander.papaspyrou@tu-dortmund.de wrote: >>>> Hey Gary, >>>> >>>> putting your last message to the list as well... >>>> >>>> Am 23.05.2011 um 01:00 schrieb Gary Mazz: >>>> >>>>> The other cloud groups are trying to coordinate.... We will need to leverage this work >>>> Most definitely. >>>> >>>>> NIST is looking to compiles a list standards, use cases and scenarios that can be applied to cloud and distributed computing. We will need to leverage this work also. >>>> Sure. Maybe we can do a short write up of how the OCCI/CDMI/OVF integration would address the NIST stuff. I remember Alan pointing me to some NIST standards wiki pages with a table of use cases and cloud desiderata -- would be a good starting point to show what the DCIfed integration is supposed to address, if we assume OCCI/OVF/CDMI to be this integration. >>>> >>>>> I'm trying to put a cloud consumer working group together around DCI-Fed. Tony DiCenzo Director Standards committed Oracle's assistance. CA may also participate, if we ask nice. :) Use case and scenario work needs to proceed with the user community >>>> That sounds very interesting. Can we help you with anything on this? >>>> >>>>> I also just sent an email on "hot issues" from the largest IT consumer in the US Fed.., Its part of defining requirement areas for technical focus. >>>> Yep, seen that. Comments in that mail. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Alexander >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dcifed-wg mailing list >>>> dcifed-wg@ogf.org >>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/dcifed-wg
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